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Reading between the lines it’s obvious McGeady has been a bit of a dick towards some of the other players, managers etc who he thinks aren’t good enough.

He needs managing correctly and played in a style that gets the best out of him. Because he’s the best player in the league on his day.
 

Hard to put into words how bad appointment Parky was

even worse was the ususal suspects turning on mcgeady immediately

@Hongkongphooey and the likes

poor all round
What bothers me though is the whole player power thing. The manager is there to make decisions and take the responsibility for those decisions. The players are there to play their best under the guidance and leadership of their manager. It has to be this way. If there was a commitment/disciplinary issue with McGeady, then Parkinson did the right thing.
 
he is saying exactly what the fans said when he was appointed

it’s not rocket science

he’s up there with the worst manager we have ever had yet people trying to twist it to take his side

The most awful part was how quickly “fans” turned on mcgeady based on rumours by fantasists on an internet message board

Carries the team first year then these “fans” just jump on him

we talk about being these great fans etc, that’s one example when some were absolutely awful

shameful

That's the internet and modern society sadly. I don't like it either but that's how things work nowadays.

I will just say though that your viewpoint is just as extreme as those people who you think are making reasons up for him being exiled.

I'm pretty confident that there will have been fault on both sides here. The wide ranging reports of Parkinson's lack of man management ability coupled with McGeady's history of falling out with managers suggest that is likely to have been the case.

In the same way that you don't believe the people saying McGeady is a bully, I wouldn't expect you to 100% believe McGeady's version of events.
 
It wasn't, the Morgan podcast was fairly recent but the bully tag has been around since pretty much the day he was dropped. It stems from a WhatsApp that was doing the rounds that everyone took as gospel. The Morgan quotes were supposedly 'proof'.

Think the Morgan podcast has to be taken in context too. The Open Goal podcast is very 'bantery' and Si Ferry loves McGeady. Morgan was kind of egged on to tell stories about him but also made himself look like a tit as well. Then McGeady actually went on not long after and brought it up himself that Morgan had exaggerated things.
I'm obviously not in the right social circles to have heard about the initial WhatsApp then.

I reread back the Morgan podcast thread on here and no one mentions any previous info on McGeady in it as far as I can see, so I obviously am not alone in not being in on whatever was said before that point. Going from the posts on that thread, most appear to be basing their opinions on the podcast.
 
Should be a squad player until his contract runs out and let him go elsewhere.

We should be looking at playing players who are hoping to be our long term players like Gooch, Diamond, Embleton and O'Nien rather than start Mcgeady and Maguire whose time should also be coming to an end sooner rather than later.
 
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I’m sure there’s more to this story from both sides.

What stands out for me is the that the club have presumably sanctioned the release of this podcast which again shows us up as a tinpot organisation under the current regime.

Whatever has gone on you don’t allow a current player at the club to badmouth a very recent former manager whilst he’s still employed by the club.
Was going to say this. Imagine this happening at a Premier League club.
 
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Sounds like Parkinson was disliked by all the players.
Geady, “We hardly trained”😳
How did they get noticeably fitter after we hired that fella then? It was pretty much unanimous, even amongst the PP haters, that he had us fitter last year?
 
There is a different debate on people being "soft" and "in my day bullies were people who would punch you not say mean things to you" blah blah blah, but the modern day definition of bully matches what Morgan described. Maybe he's a complete liar, only Morgan and the other players will know that.

Think this is a major part of it. I've never heard anything about McGeady yet that I think sounds like bullying.

Even in this 'redemption' podcast, McGeady says Maguire has the IQ of a goldfish. On STID he called the youths 'gimps' for throwing snowballs. Personally I think that's fine/funny, and reflects how I'd talk with mates, but from a sort of primary school 'this is what bullying looks like' perspective you could stick him back in the reserves for either of these too if you're that way inclined.
 
Think this is a major part of it. I've never heard anything about McGeady yet that I think sounds like bullying.

Even in this 'redemption' podcast, McGeady says Maguire has the IQ of a goldfish. On STID he called the youths 'gimps' for throwing snowballs. Personally I think that's fine/funny, and reflects how I'd talk with mates, but from a sort of primary school 'this is what bullying looks like' perspective you could stick him back in the reserves for either of these too if you're that way inclined.

Neither of those things could remotely be considered 'bullying'.

The fact is we will never know the full story, but the 'bullying' rumour came about way before the Morgan pod and also included Maguire IIRC.

As much as I didn't like Parkinson I just can't see McGeady being completely innocent of anything, there have been far too many incidents in his career suggesting he is a disruptive figure or at best a divisive one.
 
Neither of those things could remotely be considered 'bullying'.

The fact is we will never know the full story, but the 'bullying' rumour came about way before the Morgan pod and also included Maguire IIRC.

As much as I didn't like Parkinson I just can't see McGeady being completely innocent of anything, there have been far too many incidents in his career suggesting he is a disruptive figure or at best a divisive one.
I suspect he’s a bit of a perfectionist. These people are difficult to manage. He also admitted he’s stubborn so those things in tandem make it worse.
 
I suspect he’s a bit of a perfectionist. These people are difficult to manage. He also admitted he’s stubborn so those things in tandem make it worse.

Absolutely.

He's also bound to be outspoken after playing for managers like Trappatoni, Unai Emery, and Martinez..

Their methods are a bit different to the Parkosaur.. But it's up to the manager to manage the player constructively and, possibly, maybe (shock/horror!) take some ideas on board.

watching that Scottish video of McGeady chatting about various managers was really interesting.
 
I'm obviously not in the right social circles to have heard about the initial WhatsApp then.

I reread back the Morgan podcast thread on here and no one mentions any previous info on McGeady in it as far as I can see, so I obviously am not alone in not being in on whatever was said before that point. Going from the posts on that thread, most appear to be basing their opinions on the podcast.
It was posted on here at the time and the bully tag stuck with him since, so best part of a year. The gist was that Leadbitter told Parkinson he was bullying O'Nien and Dobson and O'Nien wanted to leave because of it. So obviously when Morgan said McGeady took the piss out of O'Nien for reading that was proof for people.
 
Think this is a major part of it. I've never heard anything about McGeady yet that I think sounds like bullying.

Even in this 'redemption' podcast, McGeady says Maguire has the IQ of a goldfish. On STID he called the youths 'gimps' for throwing snowballs. Personally I think that's fine/funny, and reflects how I'd talk with mates, but from a sort of primary school 'this is what bullying looks like' perspective you could stick him back in the reserves for either of these too if you're that way inclined.
I’ve never thought the STID thing proved anything until this place used it as evidence. When I saw it, my first thought was that there was a bit of camaraderie and banter between the first team and the academy as opposed to bullying.
 
I’ve never thought the STID thing proved anything until this place used it as evidence. When I saw it, my first thought was that there was a bit of camaraderie and banter between the first team and the academy as opposed to bullying.
Exactly, he was laughing when he said it. My Mrs who knows absolutely nothing about football and couldn't name a single player thought it was great that he was carrying on with them and wasn't up his own arse.

At the end of the day its a 30 second clip taken out of context and proves exactly what you want it to 'prove'.

The other clip that people cite is when he criticises Coleman, which is edited to look like he'd barely cleared his drawers out and McGeady is slagging him off, but I believe it was actually filmed in the summer after Ross was appointed. And he was spot on, too.

He's clearly a big personality and will rub some people up the wrong way, but he's been an important player for us and the sticks people use to beat him with are nonsense.

Edit - Just read the other comment about Maguire having the IQ of a goldfish :lol: f***ing hell. They're mates aren't they?
 
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It's a really good listen and surprisingly candid, given that this is the official SAFC podcast.

McGeady is our most talented player and I'm glad that he's back in the team. But his account of Parkinson's time at SAFC is inevitably partial and I've lived long enough to know that human relationships are complex. Obviously. he didn't get on with our former manager, but we'll probably never know the full reasons why.
 
He's clearly a big personality and will rub some people up the wrong way, but he's been an important player for us and the sticks people use to beat him with are nonsense.

Edit - Just read the other comment about Maguire having the IQ of a goldfish :lol: f***ing hell. They're mates aren't they?
Exactly what I mean. He's definitely got the benefit of the doubt for me if his main detractors over a full career are Phil Parkinson, Strachan/Lennon (that again just sounds really funny to me?), and a Moscow coach thinking he's not applying himself enough while he's simultaneously banging them in for Eire.
 
There's obviously the truth somewhere in this story. The best thing I could say to McGeady is do your talking out on the pitch, week in, week out. Starting from NOW.
 
Firstly, I can’t understand why the club are airing their dirty laundry on an official channel like this. I’m sure Parkinson will have signed a disclosure to stay silent for a period, so bit much to get the lad on he fell out with and put this out publicly.
Secondly, it’s a bit late to now say “I knew after 10 days he wasn’t the right man” but said or did nothing to help? It’s the kind of piss taking attitude we’ve had from so many players over the years.
The squad was at a low ebb. Is this the most mentally weak squad we’ve ever had? Can’t get out of this piss poor league after three attempts but it’s the gaffers fault?
 
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