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Re: MON has lost the dressing room
3 games in a year. What a motivator!
Man City
West Ham
Reading.
3 games in a year. What a motivator!
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Man City
West Ham
Reading.
3 games in a year. What a motivator!
3 games in a year. What a motivator!
Well you did ask..
2 in 3 months also...![]()
In fairness, the same could be applied to you. Even though I agree with a lot of what you say on the matter, it does appear at times that when looking at the problem or when blame/criticism needs to be attached, it's anyone but O'Neill (that goes for others too, of course).
Your basic point seems to be that it's the previous regime's fault for the mess we're in, and that O'Neill has his hands tied and needs to move players on before he can start improving the squad, and it'll be a gradual process.
But that doesn't mean he can't take some of the blame for some of the negative aspects we've had to put up with in the past year, be it the state of the football, the signings or the some of the results.
Perhaps you're just doing what I've been guilty of in the past. I spent a lot of time talking about how I didn't believe he was 'the messiah' and how he didn't do such a terrific job at Villa, as many would lead you to believe. Somehow this turned me into a 'bed-wetter' or 'knee-jerker'oops: how does that even work?). On the opposite end of the spectrum, you spend a lot of time repeating what I spoke about above.
I dunno, it just seems a lot of people can't seem to be objective.
It's awful however you look at it I'm afraid
In fairness, the same could be applied to you. Even though I agree with a lot of what you say on the matter, it does appear at times that when looking at the problem or when blame/criticism needs to be attached, it's anyone but O'Neill (that goes for others too, of course).
Your basic point seems to be that it's the previous regime's fault for the mess we're in, and that O'Neill has his hands tied and needs to move players on before he can start improving the squad, and it'll be a gradual process.
But that doesn't mean he can't take some of the blame for some of the negative aspects we've had to put up with in the past year, be it the state of the football, the signings or the some of the results.
Perhaps you're just doing what I've been guilty of in the past. I spent a lot of time talking about how I didn't believe he was 'the messiah' and how he didn't do such a terrific job at Villa, as many would lead you to believe. Somehow this turned me into a 'bed-wetter' or 'knee-jerker'oops: how does that even work?). On the opposite end of the spectrum, you spend a lot of time repeating what I spoke about above.
I dunno, it just seems a lot of people can't seem to be objective.
Agree with this. The continual harping back to Bruce in particular is getting embarrassing. The manager's job is to come in and work with what he's got, changing things as and when he can (funds permitting), stamp his own style on things and then take responsibility for the results on the pitch. I wonder if Hull fans are constantly referring back to the managers before Bruce and crediting them with their current revival because a lot of the players are the same - of course not, they give Bruce the credit for their performances since he took over as manager.
And trying to be objective, we are still in a 'not bad' position - a fair gap between us and the relegation zone, with a few teams around us in the same position really. I don't expect us to go down, and I certainly still want MoN in charge next season. But please, this is not Bruce's team on the pitch now - it is MoN's and he should take the plaudits and any criticism - given the character he is I'm sure he would agree with this.
I would agree that the mainly turgid football on display doesn't help, but (as they say) it's a results business..
, if i woke up 2moro morn and he had walked away i wouldnt batter an eyelid
the 3 points off 10th is being bandied about now yet we know we are in a relegation battle once again , if i woke up 2moro morn and he had walked away i wouldnt batter an eyelid
To me it says he realises Alfred can't head it at all and we'd already conceded on the break so kept an extra man back. Perfectly reasonable to do so.
the 3 points off 10th is being bandied about now yet we know we are in a relegation battle once again , if i woke up 2moro morn and he had walked away i wouldnt batter an eyelid
Keep sufficient men back by all means but have Alf in the box, even if he can't head he's got nuisance value and strength. It was ridiculous to have him back for that late corner.
Mentioning that is every bit as just as people mentioning relegation.
Mentioning that is every bit as just as people mentioning relegation.
We're closer to 10th than we are to the relegation zoneIf it's a valid criticism that we're in a relegation battle, then it's a more valid point that we're 3 points from 10th.
its god damn f***ing rotten under mon almost identical similarities than under bruce and i dont look forward to football
The trouble (IMO) is that he's combining average (at best) results with awful, turgid football. If I could see a decent team structure and style of play I'd be much more encouraged to give him the benefit of the doubt.