Martin Bain Interview on Safc.com


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It's funny how they were fine under Allardyce isn't it?
For the end of the season. Kirchhoff has been plagued his whole career, as has jones and Rodwell. Anichebe is shite and always injured.

The club should have signed mvila, they chose not to. Fuck knows why, idiots.
 
For the end of the season. Kirchhoff has been plagued his whole career, as has jones and Rodwell. Anichebe is shite and always injured.

The club should have signed mvila, they chose not to. Fuck knows why, idiots.
Allardyce has always been particularly good at managing injuries. Whoever he hired or whatever he was doing last season is now not being done. Plus I suspect a few probably don't like Moyes.
 
I don't how much he's on, do you.

The quote you mentioned was that we need to buy players that will have a sell-on value.

You then went on to mention a player that didn't cost anything at all (so if we do sell him one day whatever we get is profit) who is only on a 1-year contract currently anyway, giving us the flexibility to either let him go if he isn't going to cut it, or give him a longer one if he looks like he can cut it. As we're short in the Target Man department, I can't see why anyone would have a problem with this post-window deal when we'd failed to attract the pay-for targets we were in for.
 
Allardyce has always been particularly good at managing injuries. Whoever he hired or whatever he was doing last season is now not being done. Plus I suspect a few probably don't like Moyes.
Apparently none of the medical/fitness staff has changed the local journos were reporting. Allardyce also had a crisis like this at west ham with injuries according to a West Ham poster.

Moyes has done appallingly, but not interested in people's hyperbole and made up nonsense to give the bloke stick, there's enough other stuff to beat him with.
 
The quote you mentioned was that we need to buy players that will have a sell-on value.

You then went on to mention a player that didn't cost anything at all (so if we do sell him one day whatever we get is profit) who is only on a 1-year contract currently anyway, giving us the flexibility to either let him go if he isn't going to cut it, or give him a longer one if he looks like he can cut it. As we're short in the Target Man department, I can't see why anyone would have a problem with this post-window deal when we'd failed to attract the pay-for targets we were in for.
I also quoted getting the player trade model but ignore that. He talks about getting it right and we were paying a player to get fit, a player who didn't have a club. If you think that is clever economics more fool you. He's on a one year contract, so no profit will be made, he hasn't had any playing time and I would say he's cost us a fair bit for doing fuck all.
 
I also quoted getting the player trade model but ignore that. He talks about getting it right and we were paying a player to get fit, a player who didn't have a club. If you think that is clever economics more fool you. He's on a one year contract, so no profit will be made, he hasn't had any playing time and I would say he's cost us a fair bit for doing fuck all.
Would anyone trust this bloke to spend more in January
 
I watched that and I dunno what to think. He speaks well but surely in any business you need to speculate to accumulate and we haven't done this.
If we are successful to an extent on the pitch ie: winning some games. The business side will be better but we haven't invested enough. He didn't mention that.
I Nearly fell ower when he mentions "thinking outside the box " ! A bit David Brent I think.
Those who have seen it what's your views?
you should have seen him at Rangers when the shit hit the fan he wasn't smug then and he thought he could sort it all out by bluff. BUT THEN HMRC came a knocking
 
Would anyone trust this bloke to spend more in January
He's slated others rightly, but saw this one through. I just don't get why on one hand he says we've got it wrong in the past then signed a player that was injured. How many weeks was he paid before he even made the bench. He's been on the pitch how many minutes but because he didn't cost a fee that's ok. I've nothing against him as we needed options but why wasn't he asked to prove his fitness before throwing out a years contract to someone who was injury prone
 
I also quoted getting the player trade model but ignore that. He talks about getting it right and we were paying a player to get fit, a player who didn't have a club. If you think that is clever economics more fool you. He's on a one year contract, so no profit will be made, he hasn't had any playing time and I would say he's cost us a fair bit for doing fuck all.

Player trade model is exactly the thing I was describing.

1 year contract was perfect in the situation. We hadn't managed to secure our preferred targets, the window was closed, we needed a target man and he was available on a free.

If he's not good enough and we don't extend his contract then it was a waste, but if he can show his usefulness then we've either gained a player for nothing or gained an asset worth a sell-on value.
 
Player trade model is exactly the thing I was describing.

1 year contract was perfect in the situation. We hadn't managed to secure our preferred targets, the window was closed, we needed a target man and he was available on a free.

If he's not good enough and we don't extend his contract then it was a waste, but if he can show his usefulness then we've either gained a player for nothing or gained an asset worth a sell-on value.
He's still cost us whilst sitting on his arse and he's even pulled out of an under 23 game tonight. He's been a waste up to now, he wasn't going anywhere, he couldn't without pulling something. Why are we signing an injury plagued player who was actually err injured. Why could we not get him to prove his fitness and why did a CEO who said we've made mistakes in the past sanction it
 
Impressive interview, naturally says all the right things, however when he talks about getting the basics right and improving our transfer policy, i switched off. Like all of these things, the proof is in the pudding and so far Mr Bain, your transfer dealings have been f***ing appalling. The side has not enough players, its an imbalanced squad and on Saturday our full backs could be Jones and Love. I haven't even got round to that centre half or Mcnair yet, who between them cost 15 million. Talk is cheap.
 
He's still cost us whilst sitting on his arse and he's even pulled out of an under 23 game tonight. He's been a waste up to now, he wasn't going anywhere, he couldn't without pulling something. Why are we signing an injury plagued player who was actually err injured. Why could we not get him to prove his fitness and why did a CEO who said we've made mistakes in the past sanction it

For exactly the reasons I stated in the post you quoted... we needed a target man, we'd failed to secure our preferred targets, the window was shut and he was the only one available.

We went into the season with too few strikers. If we hadn't signed him and Defoe were to get injured, we'd be left with Asoro as our most experienced striker.
 
Tell me a manager who would have been happy to have £27M to spend and would have been able to buy 3-4 first team quality players, including a young, striker with the ability to score. On top of that, bring in a further 5 players to bulk out the squad. This summer was a shit storm because we had to do so much with so little. We can easily look back now and say we should have bought him, or paid less for him etc. Trouble is we lost a drawing factor to the club in the form of Allardyce. We struggle to sign quality because we aren't ambitious enough, we aren't ambitious enough because we can't afford to compete, we can't afford to compete because of shit decisions made over the past 6 years, shit decisions were made because we had the wrong people running the football club.
I don't think that's the problem though, we signed 3/4 for decent money and brought in squad fillers like Pienaar and Anichebe. Unfortunately neither the money signings or the fillers have improved us much if at all.
 
For exactly the reasons I stated in the post you quoted... we needed a target man, we'd failed to secure our preferred targets, the window was shut and he was the only one available.

We went into the season with too few strikers. If we hadn't signed him and Defoe were to get injured, we'd be left with Asoro as our most experienced striker.
We didn't need an injured one man, if Defoe gets injured we are still left with Asoro. No he wasn't the only one available, He's hardly been available himself
 
I watched that and I dunno what to think. He speaks well but surely in any business you need to speculate to accumulate and we haven't done this.
If we are successful to an extent on the pitch ie: winning some games. The business side will be better but we haven't invested enough. He didn't mention that.
I Nearly fell ower when he mentions "thinking outside the box " ! A bit David Brent I think.
Those who have seen it what's your views?


Appalling that our senior management work for a company that exists to deliver a product (wins) and yet deliver none.

However you want to cut it we are shit at the market in which we operate, yet still pay top whack to employees who are consistently unable to deliver success, on and off the pitch.

We manage crisis, that's it.
 
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