Martin Bain Interview on Safc.com


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Tell me a manager who would have been happy to have £27M to spend and would have been able to buy 3-4 first team quality players, including a young, striker with the ability to score. On top of that, bring in a further 5 players to bulk out the squad. This summer was a shit storm because we had to do so much with so little. We can easily look back now and say we should have bought him, or paid less for him etc. Trouble is we lost a drawing factor to the club in the form of Allardyce. We struggle to sign quality because we aren't ambitious enough, we aren't ambitious enough because we can't afford to compete, we can't afford to compete because of shit decisions made over the past 6 years, shit decisions were made because we had the wrong people running the football club.
Instead of focusing on volume Moyes needed to focus on smaller numbers and quality. The youth players would have been good enough as squad fillers.

Allardyce bought well on a shoestring in the last window while in a dog fight. I understand Moyes didn't have that much time but he couldn't do the same.
 
Instead of focusing on volume Moyes needed to focus on smaller numbers and quality. The youth players would have been good enough as squad fillers.

Allardyce bought well on a shoestring in the last window while in a dog fight. I understand Moyes didn't have that much time but he couldn't do the same.
Moyes has been awful but I'm not having this like. Our squad is tiny and bringing in smaller numbers was not the answer, how on earth would it be?

We needed 3/4 first team signings AND players to fill out the squad. That wasn't going to happen with what we had to spend.
 
Instead of focusing on volume Moyes needed to focus on smaller numbers and quality. The youth players would have been good enough as squad fillers.

Allardyce bought well on a shoestring in the last window while in a dog fight. I understand Moyes didn't have that much time but he couldn't do the same.

Yep, that would've gone down well on here ;)
 
I watched that and I dunno what to think. He speaks well but surely in any business you need to speculate to accumulate and we haven't done this.
If we are successful to an extent on the pitch ie: winning some games. The business side will be better but we haven't invested enough. He didn't mention that.
I Nearly fell ower when he mentions "thinking outside the box " ! A bit David Brent I think.
Those who have seen it what's your views?

But its not his call whether to speculate to accumulate, when the club is financially fucked, and so financially dependent on one individual who doesn't want to keep putting in the same level of subsidy.
 
Haway mate, he works for the club not a national paper. They will have gave him a list of questions to ask man :lol:

I know I know - the point I'm making is that the headline statements are completely worthless.

For example - i want to hear what the plans are to improve the quality of our player recruitment. How are we going to be more professional in this regard - - a detailed due diligence process before committing significant expenditure? a clear strategic intent in the profile of footballers we are interested in?
 
Yep, that would've gone down well on here ;)
Before the season started, most of us just wanted to keep the squad together from the end of last season and buy 1 or 2 more. If we did that we would have been mid table now. Consistency in playing staff goes a long way because it builds team spirit and togetherness.

N'Dong is a decent and will only get better, but was it worth spending half the budget on him? Him aside, we were shopping in the baby section of primark! Hardly any of his signings have had much 1st team experience, never mind in the premiership.
 
Good interview and well spoken and put forward some good points , however we have 2 points from 8 games so I can't buy into it to much .
Plus the signings during his tenure make De Fanti look like a genius
 
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Before the season started, most of us just wanted to keep the squad together from the end of last season and buy 1 or 2 more. If we did that we would have been mid table now. Consistency in playing staff goes a long way because it builds team spirit and togetherness.

N'Dong is a decent and will only get better, but was it worth spending half the budget on him? Him aside, we were shopping in the baby section of primark! Hardly any of his signings have had much 1st team experience, never mind in the premiership.
What happens when most of the first team gets injured like it has now?

Plus the signings during his tenure make De Fanti look like a genius
Utter bullshit
 
Moyes has been awful but I'm not having this like. Our squad is tiny and bringing in smaller numbers was not the answer, how on earth would it be?

We needed 3/4 first team signings AND players to fill out the squad. That wasn't going to happen with what we had to spend.
We will have to agree to disagree then. Leicester won the title last year with a small amount of playing staff. I get that injuries play a part but isn't it better to spead bigger on 1st teamers that can actually make a difference? We have spread this money too thin and bought crap.

What happens when most of the first team gets injured like it has now?
Sicknotes come out of the woodwork when the playing staff are unhappy.
 
Moyes has been awful but I'm not having this like. Our squad is tiny and bringing in smaller numbers was not the answer, how on earth would it be?

We needed 3/4 first team signings AND players to fill out the squad. That wasn't going to happen with what we had to spend.
But still, buying love and McNair was a huge waste of our budget, love is not any better than our own reserves and McNair is aright but again just not a priority for me.

And to cap it off we loaned out a player who would easily get into our squad and definitely have a part to play in the team in lens, it should have been a sale or nothing.
 
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We will have to agree to disagree then. Leicester won the title last year with a small amount of playing staff. I get that injuries play a part but isn't it better to spead bigger on 1st teamers that can actually make a difference? We have spread this money too thin and bought crap.


Sicknotes come out of the woodwork when the playing staff are unhappy.
We have numerous injury prone players though, it's not like Leicester.

But still, buying love and McNair was a huge waste of our budget, love is not any better than our own reserves and McNair is aright but again just not a priority for me.

And to cap it off we loaned out a player who would easily get into our squad and definitely have a part to play in the team in lens, it should have been a sale or nothing.
I completely agree, loaning lens out was lunacy. But we saved wages which is all the club cared about. Sad admitted he had no say on Giaccherini and moyes clesrly didnt on lens. He was above Khazri at the time
 
There's no way the club will be successful in the next five years...too many mistakes, not enough investment, horrendous decisions...we're more likely to get relegated and struggle in the Championship with the utter crap that has been bought.
 
What did you expect after 3 months like? We were always going to struggle and have years worth of debt to clean up. It's going to get worse before it gets better

I'm not sure this is true, but I agree with the rest of your post.

What I got from the interview was that he and Moyes are trying to sort out our annual problem that we tend to sell our players for less than we buy them for and our club generally get stitched-up in the transfer market.

To me this means we buy them young, train them up, sell them for a profit, rather than trying to buy players in their prime or latter years, keep them until they're worthless and then let them go on a free after a year of not playing but still collecting wages. [ahem, Brown, cough]
 
But still, buying love and McNair was a huge waste of our budget, love is not any better than our own reserves and McNair is aright but again just not a priority for me.

And to cap it off we loaned out a player who would easily get into our squad and definitely have a part to play in the team in lens, it should have been a sale or nothing.


Coates is loaned out and he'd have been a better bet than wasting 8 million on Papy
 
Coates is loaned out and he'd have been a better bet than wasting 8 million on Papy
Keeping bridcutt rather than letting him go for free could have been better than £5m for McNair. Of course they're shite but is the replacements any better really? Definitely not £13m combined better. I would also rather have Gomez than Rodwell
 
"This football club has to get better at buying and selling players.......... We should be looking at getting players to be able to sell at a greater value...... let's build....... we have to get our player trade model right "
"Oh yeah, just there on the dotted line Victor, that will do nicely, cheers"

How much did Victor cost us again?
 
We have numerous injury prone players though, it's not like Leicester.


I completely agree, loaning lens out was lunacy. But we saved wages which is all the club cared about. Sad admitted he had no say on Giaccherini and moyes clesrly didnt on lens. He was above Khazri at the time
It's funny how they were fine under Allardyce isn't it?
 
Keeping bridcutt rather than letting him go for free could have been better than £5m for McNair. Of course they're shite but is the replacements any better really? Definitely not £13m combined better. I would also rather have Gomez than Rodwell


i'd rather have Gomez from the addams family than that knacker but who'd buy/loan him. Giac might aswell have been kept anarl
 
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