Totally wrong, read the rules
I've literally posted them a few posts ago.
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Totally wrong, read the rules
Yep seen what you put. Blatant handballI've literally posted them a few posts ago.
Yep seen what you put. Blatant handball
Youve clearly never taken to a footvall pitch in your life. The rules are only an Interpretation, you are Interpretating them different to everyone else, so yes I agree I have a strong case. You don't, If you don't thunk that should be a penalty you should really follow a different sport.Apart from the rules and common sense being completely at odds with your point of view, you've got a strong case there.
Youve clearly never taken to a footvall pitch in your life.
No your embarrassing yourself, if he can move his hands up in that time, he can move his head to the side or down. Although one is a more natural reaction than the other I'll give you that.Ah that old chestnut. Where is footvall by the way?
He could've ducked? Rightoyou've embarrassed yourself! A ball arrowing straight for your head from 8 yards at 60mph and that's your conclusion and you're telling me that I've never taken to a football pitch in my life! Jesus wept.
How is it common sense?How refreshing to see a referee using some common sense. Even the opposing players seem to understand the decision.
Exactly my point chief. If we agree on that then there's nothing more to say.
How is it common sense?
There is a clear and specific rule that states that is handball. It could be any clearer on the matter.
What the referee has done has applied his own rule. The rule may be shit but if the refs are just going to ignore the rules they don’t like then what’s the point in having rules.
Which is an Interpretation of the rules, its not clear in this caseThat was my initial thought but actually there is a rule already mentioned on this thread that exonerates Mane of handball. It couldn't be clearer.
Which is an Interpretation of the rules, its not clear in this case
If that penalty was given against Sunderland in an fa cup final sat, would you be happy? Would your interpretation be differentDon't care who you are. In that situation you're sticking your guard up. Forget ducking - you're not getting your head under that in time. Every player in Mane's position does what he does. Even the bloke behind him is getting his arms up across his face. The rules state that a natural reflex does not qualify as being an unnatural position.
Where as if it had got passed Mane and hit the arm of the player behind, doing exactly the same thing, and deflected into the net the goal would have been disallowed for handball.I think that puts this thread to bed but it has been an amusing readThe ball was blasted fast as owt at him so even over that distance it's still milliseconds overall. It's clear as owt he was protecting himself from getting smacked in the face.
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The slow mo makes it look intentional and that he's got time to think and 'save' it but even this gif below is a bit slower than real time but you can see how late he naturally reacts to it going for his mush!
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Where as if it had got passed Mane and hit the arm of the player behind, doing exactly the same thing, and deflected into the net the goal would have been disallowed for handball.
I’ve seen players hit the ball against defenders who were closer together than Mane and the Inter lad and the penalty given..that’s a penalty though.
If that penalty was given against Sunderland in an fa cup final sat, would you be happy? Would your interpretation be different
As per the IFAB clarification its not a penalty. I'd rather the rule was changed to a direct free kick/penalty for deliberate handball & an indirect free kick for a non deliberate handball/self defence in situations like thatI think that puts this thread to bed but it has been an amusing readThe ball was blasted fast as owt at him so even over that distance it's still milliseconds overall. It's clear as owt he was protecting himself from getting smacked in the face.
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The slow mo makes it look intentional and that he's got time to think and 'save' it but even this gif below is a bit slower than real time but you can see how late he naturally reacts to it going for his mush!
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Aye basically it stand in a wall inside box use hands say protecting face according to some on hereIt’s no different to when soft shites in a wall for a free kick raise their fore arm to their face to block a ball.
It’s always a foul
I think that puts this thread to bed but it has been an amusing readThe ball was blasted fast as owt at him so even over that distance it's still milliseconds overall. It's clear as owt he was protecting himself from getting smacked in the face.
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He turns his face and body away that’s clonking him on the side of the head great save by him though
The slow mo makes it look intentional and that he's got time to think and 'save' it but even this gif below is a bit slower than real time but you can see how late he naturally reacts to it going for his mush!
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Is was intentional surely? Nobody else made Mané move his armsThe slow mo makes it look intentional
Interesting idea. My issue would be you’d barely get any penalties out of it (perhaps that is fine). I can’t think of a single deliberate handball incident. There must be loads, but struggling to think of oneAs per the IFAB clarification its not a penalty. I'd rather the rule was changed to a direct free kick/penalty for deliberate handball & an indirect free kick for a non deliberate handball/self defence in situations like that