Malice in Sunderland (Bristol City FC Forum)


Thread "Malice in Sunderland" started today on their forum, only 4 replies so far, but should be interesting reading building up to Saturday.

  • (I know it’s a home game but that title was too good to resist). So, Saturday. Loads of questions currently in place and a few thoughts on some of those:
  • Will Manning change any personnel? Bluntly, I think he has to both for form and for reasons of not giving a selection that rankles immediately. No doubt in my mind that TGH will come in for Williams, and I think he has to take Bell out. I have a feeling he might play Mehmeti but reckon he’ll ultimately go Weimann on the basis of that old LJ maxim of players that can be trusted - under pressure managers like experience
  • ...
  • Will we win? Can’t see it. They’re coming off two good results, we’re in transition at best and it’s Mannings most difficult game to date. A positive draw is the best I think we can hope for here. One where performance is equally as important as result though.

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Reply re Jack Clarke: I'm already worrying about Clarke up against Tanner. We need a 90 minute performance not 25 mins.
 
Thread "Malice in Sunderland" started today on their forum, only 4 replies so far, but should be interesting reading building up to Saturday.

  • (I know it’s a home game but that title was too good to resist). So, Saturday. Loads of questions currently in place and a few thoughts on some of those:
  • Will Manning change any personnel? Bluntly, I think he has to both for form and for reasons of not giving a selection that rankles immediately. No doubt in my mind that TGH will come in for Williams, he has to take Bell out. I have a feeling he might play Mehmeti but reckon he’ll ultimately go Weimann on the basis of that old LJ maxim of players that can be trusted - under pressure managers like experience
  • ...
  • Will we win? Can’t see it. They’re coming off two good results, we’re in transition at best and it’s Mannings most difficult game to date. A positive draw is the best I think we can hope for here. One where performance is equally as important as result though.

Malice In Sunderland

Reply re Jack Clarke: I'm already worrying about Clarke up against Tanner. We need a 90 minute performance not 25 mins.
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More replies along the same glum lines.

  • They will most likely have a new boss by the weekend so on the back of 2 good results they could also have a new manager bounce. You'd imagine if it's Will Still there will be a buzz around their club. I fear we could be on the end of a hammering tbh.
  • City 0-3 Sunderland
 
Malice in Sunderland was a chapter in the book Hoolifan-30 Years Of Hurt by Chelsea fan Martin King largely about the trouncing Chelsea's mob got at Sunderland on the first day of the 75-76 season at Roker Park. A previous thread on here in 2020 explained:

Luna 17 wrote: Anyone on here attend this game, memories of the day itself, and IF you have read the book and its chapter Malice in Sunderland, does it correspond with your recollection of the day? GATE THAT DAY - 28,689

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A bloke I know who was in with The Vauxies recalled :-

''Between 75 and 92, Safc and Chelsea had a real hate-hate relationship off the pitch and some would say some of the scenes prior to matches were as bad, and in some cases worse, than when Nufc and Boro came along.

The game where it kicked off between the fans of each club was Aug 75 when we played Chelsea first game of the promotion season 75/76.
Chelsea had been relegated and were in dire financial straits but had built up a reputation as a club with a big hooligan element since the skinhead days of the late 60s.
Before the game, a football special came in at Seaburn and all hell broke loose by the Blue Bell and on the seafront as depicted in the normal Echo that evening.
By the mid 70s, there was a trend where 'the lads' gravitated to the opposite end if an away following was expected. Maybe Chelsea expected the open Roker End to be a safe place to be, but the 1500 max that entered on that hot summers day, could not have anticipated the amount of 'lads' waiting to greet them. These were the days of no mobile phones, just the 'jungle drums' and once heard, The Beehive, Upper Deck, Continental, Impy Vaults and Vauxies Club would empty as the lads would join up and go forward together.
As there was no segregation in the RE, and nowhere near enough police, chaos reigned as both sets went for each other.
If Chelsea thought the walk back to Seaburn after the game would be ok as Sunderland had won, they got another big surprise as there was no let up until they got on board the old rolling stock so badly named as footy specials.'
As might be expected, Chelsea were in the mood for revenge when the return came on Dec 22nd. Sunderland were well in the promotion hunt and despite it being near Christmas, there was a very good turn out with problems on Kings Road, in the tube stations and in their open end. Gate was 22,802.''

Plenty more problems were to follow esp on the opening day of the 79/80 season {Earls Court renovation}, the semi finals of the LC 85 and also the Fa cup qf 1992.

But it all seemed to stem from that day in August 75.
 
Was at a game against Chelsea around that time. For some reason hundreds of their fans were queueing to get into the clock stand. Why, i've no idea. I don't recall away fans being in the clockstand before that.
There were long queues at the turnstyles, and the cockneys were having a right moan about our fans having to push through their lines. A nearbye copper shouted at them "Well don't let them through". What a twat.
 
Thread "Malice in Sunderland" started today on their forum, only 4 replies so far, but should be interesting reading building up to Saturday.

  • (I know it’s a home game but that title was too good to resist). So, Saturday. Loads of questions currently in place and a few thoughts on some of those:
  • Will Manning change any personnel? Bluntly, I think he has to both for form and for reasons of not giving a selection that rankles immediately. No doubt in my mind that TGH will come in for Williams, and I think he has to take Bell out. I have a feeling he might play Mehmeti but reckon he’ll ultimately go Weimann on the basis of that old LJ maxim of players that can be trusted - under pressure managers like experience
  • ...
  • Will we win? Can’t see it. They’re coming off two good results, we’re in transition at best and it’s Mannings most difficult game to date. A positive draw is the best I think we can hope for here. One where performance is equally as important as result though.

Malice In Sunderland

Reply re Jack Clarke: I'm already worrying about Clarke up against Tanner. We need a 90 minute performance not 25 mins.
That’s usually our downfall
 
Was at a game against Chelsea around that time. For some reason hundreds of their fans were queueing to get into the clock stand. Why, i've no idea. I don't recall away fans being in the clockstand before that.
There were long queues at the turnstyles, and the cockneys were having a right moan about our fans having to push through their lines. A nearbye copper shouted at them "Well don't let them through". What a twat.
For a while away fans were located in the clock stand paddock adjacent to the Roker end
 

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