Making the Play Offs only to lose


Of course I want us to make the Play Offs but theres a part of me hoping we dont. I tell you why.

I cannot see us winning over 2 legs and then a final with all the injuries and the no striker situation we have.

Therefore in the long term , is it best for the team to - just miss out ; get all the plaudits for incredible season ; not have any play off heartache/baggage ; take a well deserved holiday and come back ready for next season with no play off hangover......... OR is the experience and involvement for the players very useful. Your thoughts???
Make the playoffs . In truth if we do i dont expect to win as the teams in there will be stronger than the home guard we have left, but it will vindicate a lot of this seasons efforts and be a massive bench mark
 
You can be realistic about our prospects, enjoy the football and appreciate just how far we've come in such a short space of time, all at the same time. My expectation is that we won't get into the play-offs and if we did, I wouldn't expect us to win it. That doesn't mean I won't be expecting us to try and win every game until the end of the season.

Our injury list is awful. The players looked knackered the other night. This is what I'm basing my expectations on.
 
Cant wait to tell the grandbairns about the incredible season i witnessed finnishing 8th in the second tier, just missing out to milwall, luton n preston!

Its the sort of shite ssbc types.
TBF compared to the last time we were in the Championship it is incredible.
 
Boro and Luton over two legs we've drawn both on aggregate this season.

Any of the other lot, we're all in pretty poor form so very winnable.

I don't see any reason why we should be worried about any other team in the Play-Offs. Just enjoy it man.
 
This attitude is beyond me like.. it’s sport. Why would you put your boots on if you didn’t expect to win and if you didn’t want to test yourself and go as far as possible..
So what if we lose.. are we, as a club and as a set of fans that mentally fragile?
Oh, and what’s this bollox about plaudits?
 
I'd take us against anyone in the final just on the back of last year's trip being fresh in our minds and the occasion not getting to us.

It's the 2 legs before that what would worry me more.
 
Seriously as a fan how can you not want us to win every game?

These kinds of threads baffle me.

Yeah like this hierarchy have loads of previous for selling assets and undervaluing our better players. You’re just making shit up to sit nicely with your generally negative attitude.
Donald and Sartori sold our entire academy basically for peanuts. They are still heavily involved within the club.

We appear to be doing things on the cheap.

We wont pay £15,000 for a net.

We’ve loaned out key squad rotation players like Matete and Wright that we later needed to save a few pennies.

We’ve got no history as a club nor as individuals of extracting full value from any player sale.

What exactly is there to rationalise a positive viewpoint on this particular issue?
 
Donald and Sartori sold our entire academy basically for peanuts. They are still heavily involved within the club.

We appear to be doing things on the cheap.

We wont pay £15,000 for a net.

We’ve loaned out key squad rotation players like Matete and Wright that we later needed to save a few pennies.

We’ve got no history as a club nor as individuals of extracting full value from any player sale.

What exactly is there to rationalise a positive viewpoint on this particular issue?

Any proof that the net hasn't been installed due to cost reasons? The extra stewarding/policing 100% costs more than a net. As ironic as it sounds, the net likely hasn't been installed due to H&S reasons. "A net would likely encourage away fans to throw stuff, not deter them. I think this will be the main reason as to not having one, especially as it is likely looked mainly from a H&S point of view. Having a net would enable 100s of pissed up away fans to think its acceptable to throw stuff onto the net as that's why it's there - to catch thrown objects. Smoke bombs/pyros/flares are illegal in stadiums in the UK, if a fan sets one off (which people will still do) then the obvious next step is to throw it on the net as to not be caught by stewards/police with an illegal object. Currently, the majority of objects don't get thrown down. I think a net would encourage objects to be thrown onto it. Objects will inevitably go through the net and thus onto the fans below. If the net isn't effective, then the club have basically created a scenario where they've encouraged more throwing of objects, with just as many, if not more landing on fans below."

We didn't loan out squad rotation players to save money on a few grand a week, we loaned out those players because they simply wouldn't play under the plans. It was impossible to predict a freak injury crisis - Matete would have been competing with 6-7 other players for his spot. Wright would have been competing with 5-6. It'd be daft to hold two good players back.

We may have no history of a club of extracting profit from player sales, but what has that got to do with the current ownership and you thinking they're doing things on the cheap?

You're creating scenarios from nothing man. Asif they wouldn't pay for a net if the only obstacle was £15,000 man.
 
Getting into the playoffs, even to lose, would be better for momentum going into next season than falling short.

We all (well most) remember loosing the play offs and storming this league with 105 points in the season after!

Make no mistake a Wembley appearance would be a major success this season given where we have came from… it could be a hat trick of Wembley wins since KLD took control!
 
We should compete as far as physically possible in all competitions and if that means playoffs and done, then that’s our benchmark for next season
 
What a piece of nonsense! Hindsight is a wonderful thing. You can't look at the Charlton Final and say it was a better outcome because we were stronger the next year, you didn't know that until we stormed the league. How did you feel at the end of the Charlton game? Did you think, "Thank God, we aren't ready for the Premiership yet, we'll go up next year"? I know I didn't! I was drained and devastated and didn't really recover until the new season started. You have to take your opportunities when they present themselves.

You've not really got what I was trying to say. Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. Of course that paragraph was an argument from hindsight, that was the whole point of it. The paragraph began with "Our own history", how could it be otherwise?! We were all devastated when Micky Gray blew the penna, and wouldn't have thought it better at the time. And nobody would have thought "thank God, we're not ready" at the time. I wasn't thinking that. Mrs Miggins at the pie shop wasn't. But it was actually better. We saw that later. Yes, with hindsight.

Nor am I saying that you shouldn't take your opportunities. I agree with you, we should, as they may not come again for a while.

What I am saying:- it is fatuous to imply that those who think it may not actually be the best thing to be promoted this time (whether they are right or wrong about it), believe the absurd proposition "you can pick and choose when you get promoted".

Rephrasing their thoughts in this manner, as Dan-Dan did, and he's arguing not with what people are actually saying, but what he claims they are.
 
I saw this thread last year when there was 3 games to go and it was touch and go whether we'd make the playoffs in league 1, and someone had the audacity to say that they'd rather not finish in the playoffs because of the heartbreak and go for the autos next season.

It's not really rocket science, finish as high as you can - if we finish in the playoffs and get knocked out in the first leg - there will still be plenty of plaudits for a very very good season. The playoff "hangover" this season will be nothing compared to seasons past, just because a small minority actually expect us to go up, whereas last season it was expected by most fans that we needed to go up.
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