Making a Murderer (Netflix)


Up to episode 4 on this, seriously recommend it, absolutely shocking shocking shocking stuff.
Less a story of murder, more a story that examines allegations of police and prosecutorial misconduct, evidence tampering and witness coercion.

Powerful series that takes the viewer on a journey of conscience.

I dont think this story has reached its end.
 
Colburn & Lenk both seem to be hiding something. Colburn calling in the number plate was very strange.
Yes, they seem suspicious in all of this. The plate thing is really bad and he realised at that point in court.

But overall there is doubt all over for me. Brendan was pressured and is clearly not that intelligent, but for me there seems to be more to him just making this up... But the fact there was no DNA in the trailer or garage is beyond crazy imo. No way would it be possible surely?

Jury not having doubt seems unlikely and the media circus must've had an impact.
 
Started watching this at 7am this morning, 1 episode to go. One of the best documentaries I've watched.

No read all the thread, what's people opinions, did he do it or not?

Still not sure what to think?
 
It was devastatingly sad. How anybody could watch the police interview with himand not see them leading him into what they wanted to hear, telling him that if he said what they wanted to hear 'it would all be ok', beggars belief. There must simply be a massive majority of quite stupid people in Manitowoc county, like, actually of very low iq. Even the prosecutors need an iq test. Dunno how they can sleep at night, unless they are really thick.

I'd agree in general, but why did he ever come out with anything about it? That's the bit that got me and I can't figure out? If innocent, why make anything up?
 
OH MY GOD

OH MY GOD

JUST GOT TO THE OLD BLOOD EVIDENCE BIT

FUCK ME

What do you think, did he do it or not?

Very interesting that initially 7 of the dury thought he was innocent and 3 gobshites managed to sway them. I've been in a similar situation on a dury and had to fight like f@ck to make a stand.
 
Yes, they seem suspicious in all of this. The plate thing is really bad and he realised at that point in court.

But overall there is doubt all over for me. Brendan was pressured and is clearly not that intelligent, but for me there seems to be more to him just making this up... But the fact there was no DNA in the trailer or garage is beyond crazy imo. No way would it be possible surely?

Jury not having doubt seems unlikely and the media circus must've had an impact.

That's what got me. There was Avery's blood in the car(maybe planted). But nothing of the birds in the trailer after she was supposedly cut to bits in there. Just doesn't add up.
 
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One of the jurers was the father of one of the County deputies and another was the husband of one of the court clerks in charge of the evidence from the first trial iirc

This didn't surprise me, TV has depicted for years, what goes on in police departments and courts in these small hick American towns.
 
I'd agree in general, but why did he ever come out with anything about it? That's the bit that got me and I can't figure out? If innocent, why make anything up?
The detectives played him. They were dealing with a maladjusted kid with an iq of less than 70. They basically told him that if he told them what they wanted to hear then he would be fine and could go home. At the end of the fateful interview he asks if he'll get back to school in time to hand in his homework. He was never free again. He didn't understand the gravity of the situation, he just wanted to please the police officers. They guided the confession, it wasn't a single flowing narrative, instead it was a series of single word answers, leaving blanks which the officers filled in. They kept asking and suggesting until he said what they wanted to hear.

He was interviewed off the back of a statement his cousin made, which she later admitted to fully fabricating.

Once the detectives had him alone it was game over. He would have admitted to f***ing his own mum or that the sky was green.
 
The detectives played him. They were dealing with a maladjusted kid with an iq of less than 70. They basically told him that if he told them what they wanted to hear then he would be fine and could go home. At the end of the fateful interview he asks if he'll get back to school in time to hand in his homework. He was never free again. He didn't understand the gravity of the situation, he just wanted to please the police officers. They guided the confession, it wasn't a single flowing narrative, instead it was a series of single word answers, leaving blanks which the officers filled in. They kept asking and suggesting until he said what they wanted to hear.

He was interviewed off the back of a statement his cousin made, which she later admitted to fully fabricating.

Once the detectives had him alone it was game over. He would have admitted to f***ing his own mum or that the sky was green.
Yeah, saw the full thing but just didn't quite understand where he needed to say he was involved to please them? Came out of the blue and new charges added for Steven etc... Why? It doesn't add up.
 
Yeah, saw the full thing but just didn't quite understand where he needed to say he was involved to please them? Came out of the blue and new charges added for Steven etc... Why? It doesn't add up.
They started on him after his cousin made her story up. They basically weren't going to let up until they got him to say something. It's not as if he volunteered the story, or went to them with it.

What really doesn't make sense is that after all the additional charges against SA because of this confession were thrown out, Brendan was still found unanimously guilty of them. The court couldn't prove that Teresa was murdered in SA's trailer (or provide any DNA evidence that she was even present in the trailer), but Brandon was found guilty of slitting her throat and raping her in the trailer. It was bizarre.
 
They started on him after his cousin made her story up. They basically weren't going to let up until they got him to say something. It's not as if he volunteered the story, or went to them with it.

What really doesn't make sense is that after all the additional charges against SA because of this confession were thrown out, Brendan was still found unanimously guilty of them. The court couldn't prove that Teresa was murdered in SA's trailer (or provide any DNA evidence that she was even present in the trailer), but Brandon was found guilty of slitting her throat and raping her in the trailer. It was bizarre.

Yeah but he admitted to it so it must be right, right.
 
They started on him after his cousin made her story up. They basically weren't going to let up until they got him to say something. It's not as if he volunteered the story, or went to them with it.

What really doesn't make sense is that after all the additional charges against SA because of this confession were thrown out, Brendan was still found unanimously guilty of them. The court couldn't prove that Teresa was murdered in SA's trailer (or provide any DNA evidence that she was even present in the trailer), but Brandon was found guilty of slitting her throat and raping her in the trailer. It was bizarre.
Yes, totally bizarre... thought he would be going home and was shocked by the verdict.
 
I'd agree in general, but why did he ever come out with anything about it? That's the bit that got me and I can't figure out? If innocent, why make anything up?

He mentions he got the ideas from a book 'kiss the girls', did a quick Google search when he first mentioned it and it is a murder mystery novel. Will look into this a bit more to see if it follows his story.
 

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