Making a Murderer (Netflix)


I think the jury has a lot to answer for as well- they all Knew of both cases well before they went to trial- Im guessing this was typical mid town usa film scenario where the Avery's were loners and the town was well do good old US of A citizens who saw the Avery place as a stain on the community to a certain extent.
I was surprised they actually kept their land at the end as I was expecting them to lose it all and a housing estate to be built on it

The head of the states prosecution team live on telly telling everyone "what happened" as if it were absolute fact. Insane :lol:
 
The head of the states prosecution team live on telly telling everyone "what happened" as if it were absolute fact. Insane :lol:

the brother was a bit ''weird'' to me as well mind-- reminded me of Gerry McCann to a certain extent
 
the brother was a bit ''weird'' to me as well mind-- reminded me of Gerry McCann to a certain extent

I agree, definitely knew more than he let on. The fact that him and his mated hacked into her voicemail and a techy from the phone company said messages had been deleted after she was killed :confused:
 
I am on the 5th now, trial

Its just ridiculous isn't it, Ive seen a lot of these types of programmes, but never seen anything like this, didn't even know it could happen.

are we allowed to talk details or what?
 
I am on the 5th now, trial

Its just ridiculous isn't it, Ive seen a lot of these types of programmes, but never seen anything like this, didn't even know it could happen.

are we allowed to talk details or what?

aye I think so-not sure who adds the spoilers though should they be required
 
aye I think so-not sure who adds the spoilers though should they be required

only half way, but its always the same thing, before you even get to corruption and planting evidence, they always have tunnel vision. He must have done it. So they don't interview her ex-boyfriend and her roommate who knew she was missing and didn't report her missing AND let them search Avery's property with no interference.

As I say, that is before you guess who put the car there, its just shocking that that can be allowed to happen, and nobody, including a judge or anybody can question it

Even in Avery did do it, the police should be prosecuted just for that!
 
only half way, but its always the same thing, before you even get to corruption and planting evidence, they always have tunnel vision. He must have done it. So they don't interview her ex-boyfriend and her roommate who knew she was missing and didn't report her missing AND let them search Avery's property with no interference.

As I say, that is before you guess who put the car there, its just shocking that that can be allowed to happen, and nobody, including a judge or anybody can question it

Even in Avery did do it, the police should be prosecuted just for that!

it gets worse mate
 
it gets worse mate

I bet. Its a problem in the US though, as I say before getting in the real corruption thing, the total tunnel vision of "it must be him".

Thank fuck I live in Britain

by the way, this is by far one of the best programmes I have ever seen.
 
just finished watching it as well. Unbelievable really.
Brendan is convicted of stabbing/raping/mutilation and no evidence of dna anywhere to be found - oh and no blood in the room either
god bless America eh
Bizarre that Kraz stated there was only one killer to convict Steven but a few weeks later stated there were two killers to convict Brendan - Kraz was lying on one occasion.
 
just finished watching it as well. Unbelievable really.
Brendan is convicted of stabbing/raping/mutilation and no evidence of dna anywhere to be found - oh and no blood in the room either
god bless America eh

And on top of that, it's all supposed to have happened in a different room to the one in which the prosecution had Avery killing the lass!!
 
And on top of that, it's all supposed to have happened in a different room to the one in which the prosecution had Avery killing the lass!!

Thanks to this thread I started watching this series this afternoon and am currently halfway through episode nine! Obviously I'm totally hooked!

Absolutely fascinating but, at the same time, a very disturbing programme
 
Watched it across two days and I'm totally gobsmacked by it all.

FFS they convicted Avery saying he was the only one responsible, then convicted Brendan as an accomplice despite not a shred of actual evidence. So in Averys case surely that's misleading the jury!

I'm disappointed the defence weren't more aggressive in their questioning. They had several witnesses rattled then stepped off.

They should've also pushed hard to find out who tampered with the blood. Even if it couldn't be proved it was planted, finding out who did it could've destroyed that persons credibility as a key witness if they were one.

Add to that no other DNA on the key, the pathetic 'hiding' of the car, no blood from the victim anywhere, etc etc and it adds up to a huge conspiracy.

I may have missed this but why weren't polygraphs used??
 
Finished this last night and it is sickening. Poor bastards. Part of me was still thinking that Avery was guilty regardless of all the obvious corruption, however the bloke just seems innocent to me. He's never done or said anything suspicious throughout the whole thing, and there is no way he could have hid all the other evidence, with all due respect, he doesn't seem clever enough. Yet he seems clever enough not to leave the car just lying around on his property after burning the body. It doesn't add up. It's shocking

The hardest part to come to terms with is that the authorities could, and did, do this. We are all nothing in reality, we don't have the freedom and liberty we are told we have.

I'm questioning everything they presented. I don't even think she was burned there. I didnbbelieve anything they said after the first couple of episodes.

Does anyone known if any sort of vigilante groups have caught up with Lenk, Coburn or the prosecutor? If I lived within driving distance id find it hard not to catch up with them on the street and give them hell
 
One thing which was not picked up again was that Coburn rang in the plates of Theresa's car two days before the car was discovered - suggesting he found it before the group found it 2 days later - however that was not mentioned again. Also, in the UK does the same judge hear the appeal on his own case - he's unlikely to want to say his original decision was wrong.

Watched it across two days and I'm totally gobsmacked by it all.

FFS they convicted Avery saying he was the only one responsible, then convicted Brendan as an accomplice despite not a shred of actual evidence. So in Averys case surely that's misleading the jury!

I'm disappointed the defence weren't more aggressive in their questioning. They had several witnesses rattled then stepped off.

They should've also pushed hard to find out who tampered with the blood. Even if it couldn't be proved it was planted, finding out who did it could've destroyed that persons credibility as a key witness if they were one.

Add to that no other DNA on the key, the pathetic 'hiding' of the car, no blood from the victim anywhere, etc etc and it adds up to a huge conspiracy.

I may have missed this but why weren't polygraphs used??
Especially as Brendan requested a polygraph.
 
How was Brendan not given a re-trial. His first lawyer was a complete snake and the investigator he hired basically stitched up his own client... :confused:

Also, IIRC the prosecution said she was shot ten times in the garage. No blood. What-so-ever. Despite it being a shit tip and rammed full with a crack in the floor... No blood. Do they think he's some sort of forensic expert?

Wey aye man.
 

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