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Mike's had his Wad of Fifties out down the FA.
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Just kicked out without making contact didn't he ?
Hand to out his hands on someone? It'd a contact sport and it was absolutely minimal contact.
Just seen it confirmed. Absolutely right decision. Both overturned.
Got to have made an attempt to play the ballI thought they changed the rule though? So its just a yellow if its stopping a goal scoring 1 on 1
Hence why Smith at Bournemouth wasn't sent off
Shelvey kicked an opponent on the ground, of course it's a red.
Whether or not Lansbury got or deserved one doesn't alter that ..... all of the rest is irrelevant.
Dummet is a clumsy lad who may or may not have pushed the lad deliberately so it's a matter of opinion.
Nope, for it to be a red it has to be clear that no attempt was made to win the ball. Subtle but significant difference.Got to have made an attempt to play the ball
Thing is, the way you've phrased that paints an entirely different picture to reality. Shelvey didn't boot some poor prone player like Shearer did. They were both on the ground, legs tangled, and in kicking to get free, Shelvey doesn't make contact with Lansbury.
Now, seeing as it's been rescinded, it appears the FA agrees with me.
Nope, for it to be a red it has to be clear that no attempt was made to win the ball. Subtle but significant difference.
So for it not to be a red there must have been an attempt to play the ball?Thing is, the way you've phrased that paints an entirely different picture to reality. Shelvey didn't boot some poor prone player like Shearer did. They were both on the ground, legs tangled, and in kicking to get free, Shelvey doesn't make contact with Lansbury.
Now, seeing as it's been rescinded, it appears the FA agrees with me.
Nope, for it to be a red it has to be clear that no attempt was made to win the ball. Subtle but significant difference.
Thing is, the way you've phrased that paints an entirely different picture to reality. Shelvey didn't boot some poor prone player like Shearer did. They were both on the ground, legs tangled, and in kicking to get free, Shelvey doesn't make contact with Lansbury.
Now, seeing as it's been rescinded, it appears the FA agrees with me.
Nope, for it to be a red it has to be clear that no attempt was made to win the ball. Subtle but significant difference.
...So for it not to be a red there must have been an attempt to play the ball?
The FA decided West Ham didn't cheat enough over Tevez to have points deducted but they fkn did![]()
Rafa had no complaints that Shelvey was sent off. He just implied Lansbury should have gone too.Thing is, the way you've phrased that paints an entirely different picture to reality. Shelvey didn't boot some poor prone player like Shearer did. They were both on the ground, legs tangled, and in kicking to get free, Shelvey doesn't make contact with Lansbury.
Now, seeing as it's been rescinded, it appears the FA agrees with me.
Nope, for it to be a red it has to be clear that no attempt was made to win the ball. Subtle but significant difference.
I don't think him saying Shelvey "made a mistake" is the same as saying he should have seen a red card.Rafa had no complaints that Shelvey was sent off. He just implied Lansbury should have gone too.
Aye they were lucky to have 2 men sent off and lose a gameNo surprise there.
Them fuckers always come out of the shite smelling of roses.
Bellends.
They were both red cards. Neither will be rescinded.
Makes it even better. The injustice
Aye they were lucky to have 2 men sent off and lose a game
The bastards
Makes it even better. The injustice
Aye they were lucky to have 2 men sent off and lose a game
The bastards
This is bang on, good post. The dummett one was always getting overturned as since the rule change (which I'm guessing the ref missed) it definitely wasn't a red card. Surprised at the shelvey one cause it looks to me like he tried to kick him twice....
Nope. For it to be a red it has to be clear that no attempt was made to win the ball.
e.g. It is a red if Dummet pulls Lansbury back by his stupid f***ing hair do, as it's clear that no attempt to win the ball has been made.
It's not a red if (as is the case here) it's not clear that no attempt was made. Because Lansbury is already going down before contact is made and puts his body in such a position to force contact with Dummett, it's not reasonable to state that Dummett wasn't going to make a a genuine attempt for the ball. Lansbury's dive renders that assertion impossible to make, with any credibility.
I'm surprised Shelvey's was overturned and am pretty confident that if the game had happened at 3pm on a Saturday, and as such had missed the widespread criticism that followed it, we wouldn't have seen both rescinded.
So they're due a good call.![]()
Ah, I see it now. Subtle indeed. Thanks for articulating it....
Nope. For it to be a red it has to be clear that no attempt was made to win the ball.
e.g. It is a red if Dummet pulls Lansbury back by his stupid f***ing hair do, as it's clear that no attempt to win the ball has been made.
It's not a red if (as is the case here) it's not clear that no attempt was made. Because Lansbury is already going down before contact is made and puts his body in such a position to force contact with Dummett, it's not reasonable to state that Dummett wasn't going to make a a genuine attempt for the ball. Lansbury's dive renders that assertion impossible to make, with any credibility.
I'm surprised Shelvey's was overturned and am pretty confident that if the game had happened at 3pm on a Saturday, and as such had missed the widespread criticism that followed it, we wouldn't have seen both rescinded.
So they're due a good call.![]()