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Doubt either will be rescinded. Bad refereeing, but the FA will stand by their man.

Shelvey tried to kick someone in the head, red card. The other was a push in the back of a player who was trying to score, another red. Not sure what else the referee could've done tbh.

The push in the back was soft but Dummett was still all over him and asking for it.
 
Shelvey tried to kick someone in the head, red card. The other was a push in the back of a player who was trying to score, another red. Not sure what else the referee could've done tbh.

The push in the back was soft but Dummett was still all over him and asking for it.

That's an interesting take on it, but I've watched the incident, a lot, and he definitely doesn't "try to kick someone in the head". Lansburys kicks and trip Shelvey, who then tries to kick out of the tangle (stupidly) and Lansbury reacts like he's been mauled by a tiger.

Scroll to 9 seconds.

The other, Lansbury is already tumbling before Dummett gets there and any contact is accidental.
Scroll to 17 seconds

For what it's worth this is the consensus opinion, including the opinion of Keith Hackett.
 
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Wtf ??
 
That's an interesting take on it, but I've watched the incident, a lot, and he definitely doesn't "try to kick someone in the head". Lansburys kicks and trip Shelvey, who then tries to kick out of the tangle (stupidly) and Lansbury reacts like he's been mauled by a tiger.

Scroll to 9 seconds.

The other, Lansbury is already tumbling before Dummett gets there and any contact is accidental.
Scroll to 17 seconds

For what it's worth this is the consensus opinion, including the opinion of Keith Hackett.

Doesn't matter if it's accidental. It's a foul. Shelvey was unlucky mind, but he's a racist wanker, so fuck him.
 
Unfortunately thats what happens. Well, not unfortunate in this case :)
:lol: To be honest, I don't even blame the referee & his assistants. They're clearly out of their depth and just let the occasion get to them. The FA should never have chosen them for a game of this size (not saying it's a massive game before anyone gets precious). Newcastle vs Forest on tv, should have had a more experienced referee, especially as Forest have been involved in so many games featuring red cards.

Doesn't matter if it's accidental. It's a foul.
Should still be a penalty, but it should have been a red as it wasn't clear that no attempt was made to win the ball. Rules were changed to stop the "Triple Punishment" of; Penalty, red & suspension.
 
:lol: To be honest, I don't even blame the referee & his assistants. They're clearly out of their depth and just let the occasion get to them. The FA should never have chosen them for a game of this size (not saying it's a massive game before anyone gets precious). Newcastle vs Forest on tv, should have had a more experienced referee, especially as Forest have been involved in so many games featuring red cards.


Should still be a penalty, but it should have been a red as it wasn't clear that no attempt was made to win the ball. Rules were changed to stop the "Triple Punishment" of; Penalty, red & suspension.

Agreed. I've banged that drum for years that a penalty is enough.
 
That's an interesting take on it, but I've watched the incident, a lot, and he definitely doesn't "try to kick someone in the head". Lansburys kicks and trip Shelvey, who then tries to kick out of the tangle (stupidly) and Lansbury reacts like he's been mauled by a tiger.

Scroll to 9 seconds.

The other, Lansbury is already tumbling before Dummett gets there and any contact is accidental.
Scroll to 17 seconds

For what it's worth this is the consensus opinion, including the opinion of Keith Hackett.

I've watched that again and Shelvey still kicks at the head of Lansbury with his left leg. There's no way that one will be overturned. The other one is really soft but you can see the FA backing the referee as Dummett still has his hands on the back of the player.
 
:lol: To be honest, I don't even blame the referee & his assistants. They're clearly out of their depth and just let the occasion get to them. The FA should never have chosen them for a game of this size (not saying it's a massive game before anyone gets precious). Newcastle vs Forest on tv, should have had a more experienced referee, especially as Forest have been involved in so many games featuring red cards.


So its Forests fault :) Sorry mate, you are in the second tier of football, its unthinkable what a second rate ref is like after seeing some of the top refs we have seen. Thats what playing in the lower divisions leaves you open to :) :) :)
 
I've watched that again and Shelvey still kicks at the head of Lansbury with his left leg. There's no way that one will be overturned. The other one is really soft but you can see the FA backing the referee as Dummett still has his hands on the back of the player.
I get that it's becoming an argument about semantics, but I don't think Shelvey is deliberately kicking at Lansbury's head, I think he's just trying to kick free of the tangle. The point is that before he tries to untangle himself, Lansbury kicks him.

Personally, if I was reffing the game I'd have given the defending team the foul and yellow carded both players.
 
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