Mackday Meldrew - Doncaster Rovers


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Strange. Were you there There is another thread on here discussing Winchester's performance in back 3, in first half.
I mean, you could see it was a back 3. Why the debate?
The manager said it was a back 4. Are you actually disagreeing with the guy who picked the formation? Just when I thought I’d seen everything on here, someone manages to eclipse the level of stupidity on display
 
I've advocated something like this for a while. My biggest issue is that Pritchard basically plays as a ten and we're just as vulnerable as we saw against Bolton. From a defensive point of view, all you've really done is replaced Winchester with Hume, and Matete with Evans.

I'm not sure it's going to make us any more solid.


In some ways, one of our biggest issues at the moment is trying to accommodate Doyle and Pritchard. We don't have a lot of options to take Doyle out of the firing line, and Pritchard is arguably our best player. However, we can't get the balance right with those in the side (due to preferred position in Pritchard's case, and style of play in Doyle's case).


Not seen it mate!
Ill find it!
 
The manager said it was a back 4. Are you actually disagreeing with the guy who picked the formation? Just when I thought I’d seen everything on here, someone manages to eclipse the level of stupidity on display
Ain't you pompous? If you're so clever, and I'm so stupid, tell me what position Winchester started the match. Was he out wide, for example?
There's a whole debate about it, so obviously not as clear cut as you think. I mean, were you there. Apparently Gary Bennett was going mad about Winchester starting at CB. Now I don't know your credentials, apart from coming across as bit of a know it all, but Gary Bennett was a professional centre back, don't you know
 
Ain't you pompous? If you're so clever, and I'm so stupid, tell me what position Winchester started the match. Was he out wide, for example?
There's a whole debate about it, so obviously not as clear cut as you think. I mean, were you there. Apparently Gary Bennett was going mad about Winchester starting at CB. Now I don't know your credentials, apart from coming across as bit of a know it all, but Gary Bennett was a professional centre back, don't you know
It’s got nothing to do with me or my credentials. Our manager confirmed it was 4 at the back in his post match interview on BBC Newcastle. He is the one that said it was 4 at the back. I’m fairly sure he has the best credentials in the game to know what formation he asked the players to play

What an idiot man 😂😂😂😂
 
It’s got nothing to do with me or my credentials. Our manager confirmed it was 4 at the back in his post match interview on BBC Newcastle. He is the one that said it was 4 at the back. I’m fairly sure he has the best credentials in the game to know what formation he asked the players to play

What an idiot man 😂😂😂😂
Definitely went to four in second half. I know what I saw, mate. Were you there?
 
It’s got nothing to do with me or my credentials. Our manager confirmed it was 4 at the back in his post match interview on BBC Newcastle. He is the one that said it was 4 at the back. I’m fairly sure he has the best credentials in the game to know what formation he asked the players to play

What an idiot man 😂😂😂😂
Ho ho. Who is the idiot. From the echo below. You should not call fans who know their stuff stupid, as it is you who is stupid.

Dodds post match.

Though he said that he did not think the two goals conceded owed much to the shape which he had selected for the game, he admitted he would have to reflect on those selection decisions.

The decision to go with a back three, he said, was a response to the way Bolton Wanderers had so easily exposed the team a week previous.
The issue was that with Carl Winchester in a very unorthodox role on the right of the back three, there remained uncertainty when Doncaster went direct and so wh


Switching to a more orthodox system at the break (and Dodds said the capacity to do this easily was a factor in picking Winchester where they did) made a belated impact, but it should have come earlier
 
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First half it was most definitely a back three

It was like, absolutely. Though whether Winchester was under instruction to plug gaps and come out or whether he was just clueless as to where he should be I'm not sure, so I can understand some confusion from others.
It’s got nothing to do with me or my credentials. Our manager confirmed it was 4 at the back in his post match interview on BBC Newcastle. He is the one that said it was 4 at the back. I’m fairly sure he has the best credentials in the game to know what formation he asked the players to play

What an idiot man 😂😂😂😂

It absolutely didn't start as a back four regardless of what the manager said.

Winchester off the ball took up a positon in the back three. Gooch rwb and Cirkin lwb.

On the ball Winchester played almost as a right fullback, though got caught out of position far too much.

2nd half we clearly went to a back 4 and had two wingers.
 
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Definitely went to four in second half. I know what I saw, mate. Were you there?
Yes of course I was. No one’s arguing it wasn’t a 4 second half. Manager said it was also a 4 in the first half. I’m sure he knows more than you do
It was like, absolutely. Though whether Winchester was under instruction to plug gaps and come out or whether he was just clueless as to where he should be I'm not sure, so I can understand some confusion from others.


It absolutely didn't start as a back four regardless of what the manager said.

Winchester off the ball took up a positon in the back three. Gooch rwb and Cirkin lwb.

On the ball Winchester played almost as a right fullback, though got caught out of position far too much.

2nd half we clearly went to a back 4 and had two wingers.
Right so yet another who knows more than the manager does. Easy to spot the arrogant ones on here today 😂
 
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Yes of course I was. No one’s arguing it wasn’t a 4 second half. Manager said it was also a 4 in the first half. I’m sure he knows more than you do

Right so yet another who knows more than the manager does. Easy to spot the arrogant ones on here today 😂
You're interesting, but I want to prove my point.

I was at Bolton and can tell you we played with a back four. Dodds referenced it in post match interview. Also, you can't have paid much attention if you didn't notice where Winnie started. Bit pissed?

Dodds opted to play with a back three, with the versatile Carl Winchester operating on the right-hand side of that defensive line.

"I don't want to dwell too much on the past but we felt that at Bolton we were a little bit too open and exposed," he explained.

"We felt that the personnel would allow us to get a little bit more security in the back line, and what Winnie [Winchester] would give us is a shape-change without making a sub and you could see that in the second half when we went to a back four.

Apology accepted, wind your neck in.
 
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This will be like porn to you! 😉



Some of his play in those videos is exactly what we miss at times: someone to drop close to the centre backs when they have the ball, take the ball from them and drive forward. Too often when Doyle tries it the centre becomes compact and he/we lose the ball. Neil I think is meant to do this, but we don't see it enough.

He generally keeps it short and simple when he does get to drive forward in possession which again will suit what we are trying to do.

If we play 4-2-3-1, defensively we need the two central midfielders to have discipline. He seems adept here, too. It's hard to see what his positioning is like, but he reads the game well and makes plenty of interceptions. He does however need to know when to release the ball, similar to what we saw from Neil a couple of times yesterday.

All in all quite promising signs, and I hope he starts on Tuesday.
 
You're interesting, but I want to prove my point.

I was at Bolton and can tell you we played with a back four. Dodds referenced it in post match interview. Also, you can't have paid much attention if you didn't notice where Winnie started. Bit pissed?

Dodds opted to play with a back three, with the versatile Carl Winchester operating on the right-hand side of that defensive line.

"I don't want to dwell too much on the past but we felt that at Bolton we were a little bit too open and exposed," he explained.

"We felt that the personnel would allow us to get a little bit more security in the back line, and what Winnie [Winchester] would give us is a shape-change without making a sub and you could see that in the second half when we went to a back four.

Apology accepted, wind your neck in.
😂😂😂😂

Want to go and listen to his interview and not some shitty quotes in the echo kid.

Back to bed you go little kid. Night night
 
I agree with some bits and not others. The part I don’t agree with mostly is saying Doncaster had no stand out player. Don’t know the lads name in centre midfield with the long ish hair,,,I thought he ran the show.
 
Some of his play in those videos is exactly what we miss at times: someone to drop close to the centre backs when they have the ball, take the ball from them and drive forward. Too often when Doyle tries it the centre becomes compact and he/we lose the ball. Neil I think is meant to do this, but we don't see it enough.

He generally keeps it short and simple when he does get to drive forward in possession which again will suit what we are trying to do.

If we play 4-2-3-1, defensively we need the two central midfielders to have discipline. He seems adept here, too. It's hard to see what his positioning is like, but he reads the game well and makes plenty of interceptions. He does however need to know when to release the ball, similar to what we saw from Neil a couple of times yesterday.

All in all quite promising signs, and I hope he starts on Tuesday.
Agree. Good points.
 
I agree with some bits and not others. The part I don’t agree with mostly is saying Doncaster had no stand out player. Don’t know the lads name in centre midfield with the long ish hair,,,I thought he ran the show.

The blonde haired lad? Smith I think, on loan from Arsenal...?
 
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