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Again though, composure out wide is much easier than composure in a packed centre. It's a bit of a cliché but people often talk about the first yard being in your head, and that's where your composure comes from; you make yourself some space which allows you to be composed. If you don't have that nous, you could be a great technical footballer, but don't get the time because you haven't got the football brain.

Bit of a cliched waffle I know.

Totally agree - I think he has shown this to some degree at right back, especially when he gets to move forwards. It would be good to see how he gets on and also give him more than just one game in midfield.
 
I'm a fan of 09 but Honeyman is a better player than him at the moment.

Keep 09 at right back. He's been decent there.
I’ve heard it all now, Honeyman better than O9 at the minute, jesus!!!!
 
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He has been poor but imo still a better right sided player than Honeyman who has also been poor. Morgan is better than them both

If you want to attack and win games, you play Morgan out wide every time. If you're being cautious or want to focus your attacks elsewhere, or just want someone to support, then Honeyman isn't a bad shout. He can also tuck in and provide an extra body in the centre. A central midfielder should be able to play out wide to an extent, but not in the traditional winger or inside forward role like Morgan.

But then your full backs become important, and if you're going to play with traditional full backs and wide midfielders like we generally do, the relationship and balance between the two players is important. I don't think we've quite figured out what our best partnerships are yet.

I take your point but for a bit of balance a more natural defender may have been better there when we have had McGeady on the left. When we had a good team in the premier league central midfielders like Hutch played out right and then Schwarz on the left with more attacking players in the opposite positions. It worked.

For me it has been crazy this season to play with two out and out wingers and only one striker in the box. Even if the wingers beat their man its going to be have to be a world class cross to pick out the 1 striker. Our tactics have been shocking.

Or like he said.
 
Not at the minute he isn’t, he’s a nice lad but he’s been by far our worst player in 2019 can’t be selected. Not sure what we do with him next year like either
On the right is select him ahead of Honeyman. It's like asking if you want kicked in the bollocks or the temple, granted
 
What qualities have you seen from O'Nien to suggest he'd be a good number 10? One thing that would surely go in his favour is his off the ball movement. I'm not yet convinced about him technically but I have no doubt that he'd make runs which forced and dragged the opposition defence around, freeing up space for other players in the process.

Honeyman's alright at that though, and we don't just want Honeyman mk2.
Bad enough we have HoneymanMK1
 
...09 however is clearly a much better footballer than Honeyman.

ke.

Do people really think this? I think it's evident on the ball in the fullback position with space at times that he isn't that great technically at times, whereas Honeyman has to play in what is usually a more condensed area. I honestly don't think he's anywhere near as good technically as Honeyman, but maybe running from deep and his energy could be useful at some point in central midfield, but I haven't really seen the kind of technical ability or stand out quality to suggest he'd be a shoe in as being good for us in the role.
 
Do people really think this? I think it's evident on the ball in the fullback position with space at times that he isn't that great technically at times, whereas Honeyman has to play in what is usually a more condensed area. I honestly don't think he's anywhere near as good technically as Honeyman, but maybe running from deep and his energy could be useful at some point in central midfield, but I haven't really seen the kind of technical ability or stand out quality to suggest he'd be a shoe in as being good for us in the role.
I certainly don't think Honeyman is any better and I include technically in that as well.
 
:lol: jesus wept, the bit on bold, no its not its your opinion

And you were a regular at Wycombe were you?

what an absolute moronic post and straight on the name calling again, no surprise coming from you.




Apparently its a "fact" that O'Nien is a better player

Not sure how that works like



So based on 2 2nd half sub appearances 6 months ago he is a better player

You are just guessing, he is been decent at rght back, thats it.
I've been following this thread today but been unable to post until now. I would like to know just what aspects of the game you think Honeyman is better than O9 at? O9 works as hard as Honeyman, is a better passer, better header, better tackler, and more of a goal threat. What does that leave? And for me, tonight has confirmed once more how inept Honeyman is.
 
Maguire ain't too bad at it. Honeyman is not a creator.

The shout for O9 is understandable, but at right full back you generally have no one behind you and no one to your right. Everything is front of you and you've got time and space. Its been impressive that he has shown he can learn quickly in terms of positional sense when the ball is on the other side of the pitch , and when to bomb on and go forwards.

However, to start playing in the hole and to hit the ground running, might be not as easy as having a player with endless energy in that role. I'm not against it, but I'm sure Ross has looked at him in training. Most of O9's cameo's in midfield were not taht impressive at first, then he came on and ran around a lot in the latter stages, closing down the opponent. He may develop his ability and composure, but I'm not sure if now is the time for him go central.

Early season I spoke to Gareth Ainsworth in Blackpool before Wycombe played Fleetwod. His take on O9 was that he had a great attitude, very energetic, but he was a rat in midfield and lacked composure to be a play maker. He did seem quite anxious on the ball at times, when he played that role. Like Honeyman, he may be more suited to a deeper role, but we have Cattermole, Power and McGeoch. Honeyman did a great job in the last 20 mins at Doncaster away, when Cattermole went off. Prior to that, he just ran around like a headless chicken off the front, without hardly getting a kick.
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