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09 has played there all his career, its what he does and why we signed him.

Leadbitter is not a defensive midfielder but controls and distributes the ball well from deep.

Matthews and Oviedo or Hume are not defensive full backs, all 3 are better going forward than defending.

It is a massively balanced side.
Come on man!! That's a ridiculous comment. He literally sits on top of the two centre backs. To say he's not a defensive midfielder is nonsense.
 
Playing in the hole you have to have great peripheral vision to make an impact. McGeady is probably our only player who can do this, but he is very effective wide. Maguire ain't too bad at it. Honeyman is not a creator.

The shout for O9 is understandable, but at right full back you generally have no one behind you and no one to your right. Everything is front of you and you've got time and space. Its been impressive that he has shown he can learn quickly in terms of positional sense when the ball is on the other side of the pitch , and when to bomb on and go forwards.

However, to start playing in the hole and to hit the ground running, might be not as easy as having a player with endless energy in that role. I'm not against it, but I'm sure Ross has looked at him in training. Most of O9's cameo's in midfield were not taht impressive at first, then he came on a ran around a lot in the latter stages, closing down the opponent. He may develop his ability and composure, but I'm not sure if now is the time for him go central.

Early season I spoke to Gareth Ainsworth in Blackpool before Wycombe played Fleetwod. His take on O9 was that he had a great attitude, very energetic, but he was a rat in midfield and lacked composure to be a play maker. He did seem quite anxious on the ball at times, when he played that role. Like Honeyman, he may be more suited to a deeper role, but we have Cattermole, Power and McGeoch. Honeyman did a great job in the last 20 mins at Doncaster away, when Cattermole went off. Prior to that, he just ran around like a headless chicken off the front, without hardly getting a kick.

We signed him because he did just that at his previous club. We didnt sign him as a right back.

Come on man!! That's a ridiculous comment. He literally sits on top of the two centre backs. To say he's not a defensive midfielder is nonsense.

He is a ball playing midfielder, he links the play between the back four and front....He is not a defensive midfielder at all.
 
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We signed him because he did just that at his previous club. We didnt sign him as a right back.



He is a ball playing midfielder, he links the play between the back four and front....He is not a defensive midfielder at all.

Yes, we signed him as a midfielder, but playing off the front and being creative or scoring, is a different role to what Wycombe used him. He was just a tackler and closed down quick. Not necessarily creative or great on the ball. There is a reason he was tried at right back. Most likely that he wasn't showing enough in the centre when used in matches or in training.
 
I'm a fan of 09 but Honeyman is a better player than him at the moment.

Keep 09 at right back. He's been decent there.
 
Luke 09

Jesus called his 12 together and gave them the power to vanquish all evil and cure all disease.

Could be a sign.
 
Based on watching them for more than 40 games this season.......Seriously, chuck a poll up and see how many people think Honeyman is a better footballer than 09......Look through my posting history shit head, I am a big Honeyman fan but he is nowhere near as good a footballer as 09, just a fact.....Imagine GH being asked to adapt and play at full back, how do you think that would play out?

As for guessing, clearly you never saw him in that position for his former club where he was outstanding in that position, hence why we bought him.

:lol: jesus wept, the bit on bold, no its not its your opinion

And you were a regular at Wycombe were you?

what an absolute moronic post and straight on the name calling again, no surprise coming from you.

I'm a fan of 09 but Honeyman is a better player than him at the moment.

Keep 09 at right back. He's been decent there.


Apparently its a "fact" that O'Nien is a better player

Not sure how that works like

not watched him when he came on in that position? showed it at doncaster and shrewsbury

So based on 2 2nd half sub appearances 6 months ago he is a better player

You are just guessing, he is been decent at rght back, thats it.
 
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Based on what? he has never played there for us

you're just guessing.

O9 has played there ... not in the league but the Checkatrade Trophy. Can’t remember who it was against. He didn’t start in that position, but after about 20 mins Maguire dropped back and O9 pushed up to the position Honeyman usually plays - advanced midfield behind the striker. It looked to me like Maguire and McGeouch (iirc) had decided to try it themselves rather than Ross. It worked very well imo.

If Matthews is fit enough to do RB i’d like to see O9 there again.
 
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O9 has played there ... not in the league but the Checkatrade Trophy. Can’t remember who it was against. He didn’t start in that position, but after about 20 mins Maguire dropped back and O9 pushed up to the position Honeyman usually plays - advanced midfield behind the striker. It looked to me like Maguire and McGeouch (iirc) had decided to try it themselves rather than Ross. It worked very well imo.

If Matthews is fit enough to do RB i’d like to see O9 there again.

So half a game in the checkatrade trophy, you can't form any sort of opinion off that, people are just guessing
 
He isn't clearly a better footballer
I think he is given Honeyman is pretty shit

So half a game in the checkatrade trophy, you can't form any sort of opinion off that, people are just guessing
But we know Honeyman isn't good enough. It's very evident on a very regular basis.
I'd give O'Nien a chance to play there. He simply can not be any less effective in that position

I'm a fan of 09 but Honeyman is a better player than him at the moment.

Keep 09 at right back. He's been decent there.
How is he a better player? The performances we're seeing regularly certainly doesn't back that up.
 
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I think he is given Honeyman is pretty shit


But we know Honeyman isn't good enough. It's very evident on a very regular basis.
I'd give O'Nien a chance to play there. He simply can not be any less effective in that position


How is he a better player? The performances we're seeing regularly certainly doesn't back that up.

How is O'Nien a better player

some of the posts on this thread are mad, muffin man said it was a fact he was a better player, its pathetic.
 
How is O'Nien a better player

some of the posts on this thread are mad, muffin man said it was a fact he was a better player, its pathetic.
It's not a ludicrous opinion. Honeyman is pretty poor. How long do we persist with Honeyman just running around doing next to nothing?
 
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It's not a ludicrous opinion. Honeyman is pretty poor. How long do we persist with Honeyman just running around doing next to nothing?

Thats a different question

Its not a fact he is a better footballer at all, its the opinion of 2 men on an internet message board

Thats your opinion he is doing nothing.
 
Thats a different question

Its not a fact he is a better footballer at all, its the opinion of 2 men on an internet message board

Thats your opinion he is doing nothing.
It is my opinion. I've never said its fact. I've just said it isn't a ludicrous opinion that O'Nien is better than Honeyman.

What is Honeyman doing in that No.10 role? He was poor again at the weekend.
 
Based on what? :confused:

You don't half talk some nonsense like.



I know, no idea what the OP is talking about

been solid a right back = clearly a better footballer

hows that work like?
From what I see marra, O'Nien controls the ball, far better, puts in some great tackles and probably has a superior pass completion rate. Pretty important attributes as a footballer;)

Playing in the hole you have to have great peripheral vision to make an impact. McGeady is probably our only player who can do this, but he is very effective wide. Maguire ain't too bad at it. Honeyman is not a creator.

The shout for O9 is understandable, but at right full back you generally have no one behind you and no one to your right. Everything is front of you and you've got time and space. Its been impressive that he has shown he can learn quickly in terms of positional sense when the ball is on the other side of the pitch , and when to bomb on and go forwards.

However, to start playing in the hole and to hit the ground running, might be not as easy as having a player with endless energy in that role. I'm not against it, but I'm sure Ross has looked at him in training. Most of O9's cameo's in midfield were not taht impressive at first, then he came on and ran around a lot in the latter stages, closing down the opponent. He may develop his ability and composure, but I'm not sure if now is the time for him go central.

Early season I spoke to Gareth Ainsworth in Blackpool before Wycombe played Fleetwod. His take on O9 was that he had a great attitude, very energetic, but he was a rat in midfield and lacked composure to be a play maker. He did seem quite anxious on the ball at times, when he played that role. Like Honeyman, he may be more suited to a deeper role, but we have Cattermole, Power and McGeoch. Honeyman did a great job in the last 20 mins at Doncaster away, when Cattermole went off. Prior to that, he just ran around like a headless chicken off the front, without hardly getting a kick.
Valid point, mate:cool:

We signed him because he did just that at his previous club. We didnt sign him as a right back.



He is a ball playing midfielder, he links the play between the back four and front....He is not a defensive midfielder at all.
I don't see him as a defensive midfielder, either. Catts is a defensive mid and the difference between them seems obvious. Leadbitter sits in front of Catts and distribution is the name of the game for him!
 
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Based on what? :confused:

You don't half talk some nonsense like.



I know, no idea what the OP is talking about

been solid a right back = clearly a better footballer

hows that work like?

He’s get caught out of position at RB far too often. Twice on Saturday he was laid in the opposition box and then Portsmouth got a man over on the attack. Needs to cut that out of his game.
 
Like O'Nien .think he's a canny player who gives his all but the way people go on on here about him is ridiculous.To even mention Steven Gerrard in the same thread man .Hes a worker give ye that and Gary Owers II is about right for me.
 
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