Loyalty is a two way street


DieselBert

Winger
We can't whinge about Neil anymore. We've just sacked a man who took over a just promoted club and took them to the play offs. A manager who had to deal with selling his best player, player of the season/captain and longest serving player whilst been provided with vastly inferior replacements and the first bump in the road he's out.
Time will tell whether it's a good decision but we've shown as much faith in Mowbray as Neil showed in us
 
He was also a man who was hanging around the directors box for weeks before Neil went in the hope he'd be first in the queue should the rumors of Neil going be true. He knew the score from the start, its the lot of the football manager, judged on results which weren't good enough. There may be reasons for this but we can't get away from fact we aren't where we want to be.
 
We can't whinge about Neil anymore. We've just sacked a man who took over a just promoted club and took them to the play offs. A manager who had to deal with selling his best player, player of the season/captain and longest serving player whilst been provided with vastly inferior replacements and the first bump in the road he's out.
Time will tell whether it's a good decision but we've shown as much faith in Mowbray as Neil showed in us
We remained loyal to him in the summer - if the rumours are true we were thinking of replacing him then.
I know we were still within touching distance of the play offs but to me we were on a downward trajectory that would only have got worse. Imo they’ve done the right thing.
 
Personally I don’t whinge about AN. Like the song goes imo.

Football is ruthless. If you stand still you get left behind. I like Mowbray but we are going backwards under him and quickly. He deserved his chance this season. Sacking him in the summer that would have been harsh. There’s been a big drop in performance and it’s down to his inverted FB nonsense he persists with. The high press has gone. We are very slow in our play, extremely easy to play against and concede the same goals on a weekly basis. Our attacking play is literally play a shit tone of passes until it eventually finds an isolated winger who then needs to produce something special. Had to go for me and I m pleased the club didn’t persist with him.
 
He was also a man who was hanging around the directors box for weeks before Neil went in the hope he'd be first in the queue should the rumors of Neil going be true. He knew the score from the start, its the lot of the football manager, judged on results which weren't good enough. There may be reasons for this but we can't get away from fact we aren't where we want to be.
He wasn't a manager , he was a coach. He coached the players given to him. He didn't sign them.
 
He was also a man who was hanging around the directors box for weeks before Neil went in the hope he'd be first in the queue should the rumors of Neil going be true. He knew the score from the start, its the lot of the football manager, judged on results which weren't good enough. There may be reasons for this but we can't get away from fact we aren't where we want to be.
Absolutely this! There’s some selective memories with Mowbray's tenure at SAFC…
He wasn't a manager , he was a coach. He coached the players given to him. He didn't sign them.
Going by recent performances I’m not sure these players were actually being coached.
 
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I liked Mowbray. As been said he came in did a decent job and is a decent fella but results and performances haven’t been great in recent weeks. I wish him all the best though.

However the club is the most important thing here. Hopefully we have a real quality replacement lined up.
 
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Personally I don’t whinge about AN. Like the song goes imo.

Football is ruthless. If you stand still you get left behind. I like Mowbray but we are going backwards under him and quickly. He deserved his chance this season. Sacking him in the summer that would have been harsh. There’s been a big drop in performance and it’s down to his inverted FB nonsense he persists with. The high press has gone. We are very slow in our play, extremely easy to play against and concede the same goals on a weekly basis. Our attacking play is literally play a shit tone of passes until it eventually finds an isolated winger who then needs to produce something special. Had to go for me and I m pleased the club didn’t persist with him.

Thought what Neil did was fair enough other than he last couple of days, he found the situation here not to his preference so he changed it, didn't hang around and try to change things here which would probably have been the safer move and damaging to the club.

Tony Mowbray on the other probably did that. Nothing against the chap, just a bit of a shame.
 
I will always be grateful to Mowbray but he was riding on a bit of a wave last year and when push came to shove I don't think he had it in him to turn it around.

You can talk about loyalty but his comments in recent weeks have suggested his heart wasn't in it
 
This is how football works. Loyalty is only there with the fans and that’s not a dig at Mowbray at all. You could look at Jack Clarke who has had a great season especially early doors and looks happy, yet it wasn’t that long ago he was desperate for the move to Burnley to go through. We loved Phillips,Arca,Don Hutchinson, etc yet all went when better offers were there. Amad is a player we would all love back here and let’s just say the mags put a huge bid in for him with massive money, what do,you think would happen. That’s the nature of the game. I love Mowbray and I think a lot of that is the fact he gets it from the fans point of view, but he too given a better offer would have been away and I have no problem with that at all. Loyalty in football belongs only to the fans.
 
We can't whinge about Neil anymore. We've just sacked a man who took over a just promoted club and took them to the play offs. A manager who had to deal with selling his best player, player of the season/captain and longest serving player whilst been provided with vastly inferior replacements and the first bump in the road he's out.
Time will tell whether it's a good decision but we've shown as much faith in Mowbray as Neil showed in us
You're conflating the 'we' of the fans with the 'we' of the ownership. We (the fans) can complain about Neil, but maybe we (the club's ownership) can't...and hasn't, to my knowledge.
 
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This is how football works. Loyalty is only there with the fans and that’s not a dig at Mowbray at all. You could look at Jack Clarke who has had a great season especially early doors and looks happy, yet it wasn’t that long ago he was desperate for the move to Burnley to go through. We loved Phillips,Arca,Don Hutchinson, etc yet all went when better offers were there. Amad is a player we would all love back here and let’s just say the mags put a huge bid in for him with massive money, what do,you think would happen. That’s the nature of the game. I love Mowbray and I think a lot of that is the fact he gets it from the fans point of view, but he too given a better offer would have been away and I have no problem with that at all. Loyalty in football belongs only to the fans.
I get the point about Loyalty, it’s the game and they have short careers and it comes down to cash. However what point did Jack Clarke come out and say he was desperate to move? Didn’t show any signs of a player wanting away imo. Unless I ve missed something.
 

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