Liam Rosenior

[Arfa Sleep]

I think that criteria made them all yes and no men, right?

It's impossible to be a no-man whilst being at the club. Nice.

So they only stop being a yes man when they've been sacked/leave. I see.

 

[Clavas]

Is every sacked manager a failure or is it not that simplistic? Would we not take Steve Cooper because he was sacked and a failure?

Last time I looked Cooper was working at a higher level than the Championship

Rosenior unfortunately failed in the Championship

 

[Arfa Sleep]

That’s why they didn’t last long marra. Engage ones brain.

Mowbray who was here for about 15 or 16 months and wouldn't have walked away, hmm.

 

[Jokei84]

Hull didn’t think he was good enough for this season but loads on here do

Blackburn didn’t think Mowbray was good enough to renew his contract either.

 

[Arfa Sleep]

Last time I looked Cooper was working at a higher level than the Championship

Rosenior unfortunately failed in the Championship

Ah, so a failure from a higher division is acceptable. Gotcha.

 

[Clavas]

Ah, so a failure from a higher division is acceptable. Gotcha.

I think most sensible people would agree it is more difficult to be a success in the EPL than the Championship?

 

[Bear]

Blackburn didn’t think Mowbray was good enough to renew his contract either.

I wish people would bore off with Messiah Mowbray

From the Hull owner

Asked to expand on how his ideas differed from those of Rosenior, Ilicali said: "I want offensive football. I want an attacking, entertaining team. I said it from the first minute I bought this club.
"I said I would rather lose 3-2 than have a boring 0-0. If you are counting the points and draw every game 0-0 you are going to get relegated. If you lose 3-2, it means you will win another game 4-1.
"My football brain is completely full of a successful and entertaining football style. Liam has a great philosophy but there are different styles of football in the world - Liam's direction can be successful but we want to see different things.
"It is not good for me to go to a coach and ask him to play a different way when he has a certain style of football."

 

[JL1985]

What a depressing time.

 

[Jokei84]

I wish people would bore off with Messiah Mowbray

From the Hull owner

Asked to expand on how his ideas differed from those of Rosenior, Ilicali said: "I want offensive football. I want an attacking, entertaining team. I said it from the first minute I bought this club.
"I said I would rather lose 3-2 than have a boring 0-0. If you are counting the points and draw every game 0-0 you are going to get relegated. If you lose 3-2, it means you will win another game 4-1.
"My football brain is completely full of a successful and entertaining football style. Liam has a great philosophy but there are different styles of football in the world - Liam's direction can be successful but we want to see different things.
"It is not good for me to go to a coach and ask him to play a different way when he has a certain style of football."

For what it’s worth I wasn’t against the Mowbray sacking.

All I’m saying is that you can’t write a manager off just because another team thinks they aren’t good enough.

 

[Things Change]

Mowbray who was here for about 15 or 16 months and wouldn't have walked away, hmm.

He didn’t complete a full season. I suppose by our very low standards he was here a while mind. He was hardly the second coming of Sir Alex was he? Sacked as soon as he started to speak out. The other one didn’t wait to be sacked. He walked. Even Beale spoke out. Then got sacked.

 

[Fetch Fletch]

Ah, so a failure from a higher division is acceptable. Gotcha.

Anyone who mentions Cooper always seems to forget just how much money they spent

 

[bedlington mackem]

I wish people would bore off with Messiah Mowbray

From the Hull owner

Asked to expand on how his ideas differed from those of Rosenior, Ilicali said: "I want offensive football. I want an attacking, entertaining team. I said it from the first minute I bought this club.
"I said I would rather lose 3-2 than have a boring 0-0. If you are counting the points and draw every game 0-0 you are going to get relegated. If you lose 3-2, it means you will win another game 4-1.
"My football brain is completely full of a successful and entertaining football style. Liam has a great philosophy but there are different styles of football in the world - Liam's direction can be successful but we want to see different things.
"It is not good for me to go to a coach and ask him to play a different way when he has a certain style of football."

Thats fair comments from the owner....Dodds would never have got 3 months under his ownership

 

[jaraarrow]

Is it him like ,is that the pm going around?

 

[Clavas]

Anyone who mentions Cooper always seems to forget just how much money they spent

But clubs such as Forest, Luton, Burnley, Sheff Utd, Ipswich etc need to spend upwards of £200m just to have a fighting chance of staying in the premier league never mind be "successful"

 

[Fetch Fletch]

But clubs such as Forest, Luton, Burnley, Sheff Utd, Ipswich etc need to spend upwards of £200m just to have a fighting chance of staying in the premier league never mind be "successful"

And in the champo?

 

[summaz]

Hull didn’t think he was good enough for this season but loads on here do

Struggled to get an attack of Zaroury, Carvalho and Philogene into the playoffs. Good luck doing it with Ba and Roberts

 

[TDalt]

I wish people would bore off with Messiah Mowbray

From the Hull owner

Asked to expand on how his ideas differed from those of Rosenior, Ilicali said: "I want offensive football. I want an attacking, entertaining team. I said it from the first minute I bought this club.
"I said I would rather lose 3-2 than have a boring 0-0. If you are counting the points and draw every game 0-0 you are going to get relegated. If you lose 3-2, it means you will win another game 4-1.
"My football brain is completely full of a successful and entertaining football style. Liam has a great philosophy but there are different styles of football in the world - Liam's direction can be successful but we want to see different things.
"It is not good for me to go to a coach and ask him to play a different way when he has a certain style of football."

I’m not a massive fan of Roseinor, but why would anyone listen to the Hull owner?

 

[Clavas]

And in the champo?

Are you talking to stay in the Championship or finish top 2?

Loans are a big part of championship success and if you can hit on with a couple of loans such as an Amad or two then expenditure should/could be minimal

 

[Fetch Fletch]

Are you talking to stay in the Championship or finish top 2?

Loans are a big part of championship success and if you can hit on with a couple of loans such as an Amad or two then expenditure should/could be minimal

Ipswich didn’t spend that much.

I just think cooper is extremely overrated on here because Premier League

 

[East Riding Mackem]

Hamstrung before they start mate, need to work with Dodds and Proctor, need to work within The Model, say nothing to the press that is critical of recruitment or the squad.

This is the key point - the only hope is that after last season’s disaster they’ve parked their egos & accepted the need for change. Seems unlikely, though.