Let's discuss the Monarchy


In 250 years time, I couldn't give a fuck marra.
It's just in my lifetime, to ensure this generation of self righteous, pontificating knowalls are proved wrong.
As is happening.
Now they can read this, and jump up and down, stamp their feet, have their tantrums, throw abuse at me, but they know that for the entirity of their lifetime, their will be a monarchy in this country.
That is precious.

So here comes the childish name calling and abuse, because they deep down know I'm correct 😁
I think you're trying to provoke the reactions you mention here. Most of the responses (certainly the recent ones) have been fairly level-headed.

You're probably right that they'll survive for the foreseeable future but mainly through apathy amongst the public.
 
Oh I see. I meant long term, it probably will be abolished. Yes probably not within 50 years or so

Don't be too sure, the current over 65s there is 70% support, in the current 21-30 yr olds, the support is at 20%. There is going to have to be an awful lot of current 20-30 yr olds are going to have to go on a journey so that 70% of them support the monarchy by the time they are in their late 60's
 
I think you're trying to provoke the reactions you mention here. Most of the responses (certainly the recent ones) have been fairly level-headed.

You're probably right that they'll survive for the foreseeable future but mainly through apathy amongst the public.
Mate, I'm not trying to provoke reactions.
And you're right, most responses have been fair.
But there is a constant chip, chip, chip from people who just refuse to understand, that the majority of people in this country disagree with them.

And you then go on to explain it away with "apathy"
It's not apathy marra, it is support.
 
I think tbh we have bigger fish to fry than who sits in Buck House .

They have ZERO power and its kind of irrelevant.

I wish we didn't have to keep hearing about them - but hey if 60% of the population have playdough between their ears and actively seek that crapola out - not much I can do about it

Biggest imperatives atm are

1. Reading the last Rites to the Tory Party and producing a memorial to their shiteness with Johnsons face on it

2. Sorting out / reversing the Brexit MESS which is completely destabilising the country

3. Getting PR .... which will mean the 60% of quite bright people are no longer dictated to by the minority of utter Dullards
There will always be something more important.
They don't cost each person that much. Dwarfed by what Brexit is costing for example.

It's more a moralistic argument and within time more people will wake up to the nonsense of a monarchy.

I don't think I'll see it abolished in my lifetime. But getting closer to it is good progress and that is happening. And I'll be happy if other country Australia cuts the pretend apron springs before I go.

I was a raging monarchist about 10 years ago.
 
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Don't be too sure, the current over 65s there is 70% support, in the current 21-30 yr olds, the support is at 20%. There is going to have to be an awful lot of current 20-30 yr olds are going to have to go on a journey so that 70% of them support the monarchy by the time they are in their late 60's
I’m talking long term like 250+ years. Ultimately the monarchy probably will be abolished is what im saying. I hadn’t thought of it in those terms until this thread
 
Mate, I'm not trying to provoke reactions.
And you're right, most responses have been fair.
But there is a constant chip, chip, chip from people who just refuse to understand, that the majority of people in this country disagree with them.

And you then go on to explain it away with "apathy"
It's not apathy marra, it is support.
It's not though in reality.
Vast majority don't really care. It's very few who actively support but if the others were questioned on it would err on the side of keeping things as they are.

I know very few who really support them. Mostly old people and.... Oh I won't offend you.
 
I’m talking long term like 250+ years. Ultimately the monarchy probably will be abolished is what im saying. I hadn’t thought of it in those terms until this thread

it will be abolished in my lifetime, I am 35 yr old, well, if I live long enough to be in my 70-80s
 
Mate, I'm not trying to provoke reactions.
And you're right, most responses have been fair.
But there is a constant chip, chip, chip from people who just refuse to understand, that the majority of people in this country disagree with them.

And you then go on to explain it away with "apathy"
It's not apathy marra, it is support.
Fair point. People in favour of the monarchy seem to be more actively supportive. By apathy, I meant there is a fairly large chunk of people who aren't really interested but wouldn't actively campaign against the monarchy and they'll probably make up an increasing percentage but that's just my opinion. I have no idea how accurate a reflection these polls are.
 
It's not though in reality.
Vast majority don't really care. It's very few who actively support but if the others were questioned on it would err on the side of keeping things as they are.

I know very few who really support them. Mostly old people and.... Oh I won't offend you.
Bob.
That is a sweeping statement marra.
The majority do care, as you see in the polls.
And an "I know few people who support them" quote is very subjective, and can depend alot on your location.
If you live in the predominantly socialist North East, it is probable that you genuinely don't know of many that suport the monarchy.
However, there is a big portion of this country that doesn't really echo that mate.
I couldn't really give a fuck. I'm not a supporter of the monarchy as an institution as it doesn't make logical sense to me, but I respect the right of others to support them.

Your lack of self awareness is embarrassing.
Mate, my self awareness is what makes me care not a jot what you or anyone may think of my opinions on such matters. Yours, or anyones approval is not something I either seek, or need.
Fair point. People in favour of the monarchy seem to be more actively supportive. By apathy, I meant there is a fairly large chunk of people who aren't really interested but wouldn't actively campaign against the monarchy and they'll probably make up an increasing percentage but that's just my opinion. I have no idea how accurate a reflection these polls are.
I think you are probably right on that marra, however, the large chunk you speak of, is not as large in other parts of the country mate.
 
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Imo most people are totally apathetic to them and don’t give a seconds thought day to day unless there’s a queens speech/wedding funeral or one of Andrews infamous interviews.

It makes no logical sense in this century to massively favour a family firm financially and put them on a pedestal when everyone knows they are simply human beings and not in any way superior or higher evolved intellectually but until there’s a movement and big will to remove them they will float along oblivious to real life for the majority.

One thing I don’t doubt is if this country was ever to suffer a land invasion they would be away to a neutral country in a shot and/or making a deal with the invading country to ensure they survived and continue to live the high life. :lol:
 
Imo most people are totally apathetic to them and don’t give a seconds thought day to day unless there’s a queens speech/wedding funeral or one of Andrews infamous interviews.

It makes no logical sense in this century to massively favour a family firm financially and put them on a pedestal when everyone knows they are simply human beings and not in any way superior or higher evolved intellectually but until there’s a movement and big will to remove them they will float along oblivious to real life for the majority.

One thing I don’t doubt is if this country was ever to suffer a land invasion they would be away to a neutral country in a shot and/or making a deal with the invading country to ensure they survived and continue to live the high life. :lol:
Paragraph 1==Considered and thought through

Paragraph 2==Agree partly

Paragraph 3== Drivel and conjecture based on, and proving your stance on the monarchy.
 
I think tbh we have bigger fish to fry than who sits in Buck House .

They have ZERO power and its kind of irrelevant.

I wish we didn't have to keep hearing about them - but hey if 60% of the population have playdough between their ears and actively seek that crapola out - not much I can do about it

Biggest imperatives atm are

1. Reading the last Rites to the Tory Party and producing a memorial to their shiteness with Johnsons face on it

2. Sorting out / reversing the Brexit MESS which is completely destabilising the country

3. Getting PR .... which will mean the 60% of quite bright people are no longer dictated to by the minority of utter Dullards
The current “King” has had sight of loads of regulation before any MP and has successfully lobbied to change them to his benefit - see leasehold law as an example. Nobody else has that right.
The whole hierarchy is embodied in him which ultimately results in people like Zahawi believing he is better than you and therefore why should he be even questioned by people “lesser” than him.
If people want to defer to a king then they are welcome to - they can pay for him but he is the same in the law as everybody else.
 
In 250 years time, I couldn't give a fuck marra.
It's just in my lifetime, to ensure this generation of self righteous, pontificating knowalls are proved wrong.
As is happening.
Now they can read this, and jump up and down, stamp their feet, have their tantrums, throw abuse at me, but they know that for the entirity of their lifetime, their will be a monarchy in this country.
That is precious.

So here comes the childish name calling and abuse, because they deep down know I'm correct 😁
A bit ironic, don't you think?

I'm against the monarchy, but I wouldn't call anyone names for supporting it. We just disagree. I hope it won't be around forever, but I recognise it's still there for the time being.

Edit: just noticed your avatar. Seems pretty likely you'd be a monarchist if you were in the Navy.
 
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A bit ironic, don't you think?

I'm against the monarchy, but I wouldn't call anyone names for supporting it. We just disagree. I hope it won't be around forever, but I recognise it's still there for the time being.

Edit: just noticed your avatar. Seems pretty likely you'd be a monarchist if you were in the Navy.
I don't think I'm including you in what I'm about to say, as you come across as very fair and considered in your post.

Not calling anyone names marra, just putting a description to a certain section.
And it is good to disagree. But equally, it is only right to recognise that when you are in a minority, it's not a good look to whinge about it.

And yes, my Avatar is a bit of a give away, however I did serve with many would be republicans, as you would expect in a cross section of society.
Put the lot of them including the landed gentry up against a wall.
And then what? Get them to paint it?
 
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