Let's all laugh at Crystal Palace


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That's going to be his problem though, he's hopeless up top on his own. To do that job you have to have good hold up play (he hasn't) and good decision making (he hasnt) at least.

In your opinion. Hard to shine in a awful team.

Low confidence can influence both attributes you listed. Hes never been in a team surrounded by quality and looked shit. Theres every chance he could develop down there and disprove your critcisms and il go on record now that hell score more than any of our strikers next season.
 
In a struggling side aye.

Might become a different player if he hits the ground running with a bit of confidence in a young pacey side. Take a look at Defoes Sunderland goals so far, hes had very few laid on, screamer v Mags, Dribble v Swansea. We are hardly a team where strikers can thrive for the football oracles to judge him so harshly.

He got 5 goals in one of the worst attacking sides in the league, are you trying to imply he isn't capable of doubling that in much more attacking and talented side than us?
tbh defoe missed most of the ones that where laid on

Yes but you've only ever seen him in our system. Hes not going to be asked to mark the oppositions full back at Palace. He will be asked to stay up top and link play with Zaha and Bolasie who have pace and trickery which will create more space for him.

Anyone could look shit in our team, we are slow static, play deep and play scared to lose football. Those writing him off and being extremely premature, he could easily go and have a Charlie Austin eque season next year. Im happy for him to go if we have done this to strengthen our midfield as sometimes it doesn't work out for certain players at certain clubs but Im definelty not labelling the lad as "Shite" or "Average" as hes not. People are praising Graham, well why haven't Palace bid 10m for Graham if hes so good??? SAFC fans happy to accept mediocrity once again.
but ...but...but if only he didnt have a haircut and tattoos(oh and a lot of money which an honourable man would have turned down obviously) im sure he would have been fine
 
In your opinion. Hard to shine in a awful team.

Low confidence can influence both attributes you listed. Hes never been in a team surrounded by quality and looked shit. Theres every chance he could develop down there and disprove your critcisms and il go on record now that hell score more than any of our strikers next season.

There's a chance certainly. And good luck to him if he does.

But there was a chance/ hope/ expectation/ desperate wish that it would happen here and it never did. So most of us aren't shedding too many tears.

We had three strikers who couldn't score in a brothel and (hopefully) we've now got one off the books.
 
First the Ashes and now Whickham on his way, what a cracking morning.

He can't even do the basics FFS (hold off a defender, know when to release the ball etc) never mind not putting the ball in the net. His attitude stinks by all accounts (Gordon Armstrong slated him, that's enough for me). The managers and coaches who have seen him day in, day out in training don't rate him either but he has gotten a game due to the other awful options - Altidore, Graham, Flecther!!!
 
First the Ashes and now Whickham on his way, what a cracking morning.

He can't even do the basics FFS (hold off a defender, know when to release the ball etc) never mind not putting the ball in the net. His attitude stinks by all accounts (Gordon Armstrong slated him, that's enough for me). The managers and coaches who have seen him day in, day out in training don't rate him either but he has gotten a game due to the other awful options - Altidore, Graham, Flecther!!!

No idea why but that cracked me up. :lol:
 
I have been a Sunderland fan long enough, to realise that things like this, normally shoot us in the foot! Next time we play Palace, the same 'useless f@?!#r' (according to some on here), will probably tear us a new a@#?!#@e:mad:

its basically the same as when a fat lad had a GF and she decided she wanted better. The fat lad will use owt to try and excuse it.
 
If you look on instagram he spends all his spare time in essex its prob him who wants to go
 
I have been a Sunderland fan long enough, to realise that things like this, normally shoot us in the foot! Next time we play Palace, the same 'useless f@?!#r' (according to some on here), will probably tear us a new a@#?!#@e:mad:
It's bound to happen, first thing I thought. It will be his first hat trick or summit.
 
So just to clarify, in the same way that when Colback went to the Mags it was instantly decided that he was actually proper shit and had no redeeming features as a footballer, Wickham is now also the shittest player to have ever pulled on a red and white shirt and never did anything good ever.

Is that right? I'm out quite a bit at the weekend so just in case anyone asks me.
 
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