Lee Barry Cattermole


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Exactly right. He loves it. Fair play for his efforts like. Been a none stop effort for about 4 year. :lol:
Aye well...he captained us on Wednesday. ..captain....good grief...what an example ....he's not the only liability but he's the only one that is hero worshipped on here...been out of circulation for a while but I did smile when i saw some footballing experts on here were calling for an England call up!! Dear me.....
 
He was poor 1st half, never past forward once. 2nd half he was like different player pushing the team on and making some decent forward passes.
 
Just done a quick calc on Cattermoles points to games ratio at SAFC using Statcat.

He has played 134 league games for us and in those games we have picked up 158 points. 1.18 points per game.

That would average out at about 45 points per season if he played every game. Mid table security. The valid criticism of him would be that he doesn't play enough games due to injury and suspension but all this 'liability', 'can't pass', 'just a grafter', 'so called hard man' nonsense is exactly that; nonsense
 
Just done a quick calc on Cattermoles points to games ratio at SAFC using Statcat.

He has played 134 league games for us and in those games we have picked up 158 points. 1.18 points per game.

That would average out at about 45 points per season if he played every game. Mid table security. The valid criticism of him would be that he doesn't play enough games due to injury and suspension but all this 'liability', 'can't pass', 'just a grafter', 'so called hard man' nonsense is exactly that; nonsense
Good post marrow, have a like.
 
Wow..With catts we'd have 45 points...talk about ambition lads and lasses....! The point is he shouldn't be at the club and we should have got rid to Stoke. ..he's not the only one but this hero worship is remarkable!!

I'd prefer a lot more than 45 points. I'd prefer a better and more consistently available player than Cattermole. But the fact is his record in a Sunderland top shows him to be far from 'a liability' which some have described him as. It also shows that he is not a player we should be worrying too much about when he is on the park.
 
Wow..With catts we'd have 45 points...talk about ambition lads and lasses....! The point is he shouldn't be at the club and we should have got rid to Stoke. ..he's not the only one but this hero worship is remarkable!!

I'm ever so slightly confused as to how you can't see that we are a better team with Cattermole in it than out of it?
That was kind of the point of the other lads argument. We pick up more points with him in the team than without, averaging 45 points a season should he play every game.

His first half wasn't brilliant but he was immense in the second half.
Surely you can agree with that or are you that close minded?
 
Wow..With catts we'd have 45 points...talk about ambition lads and lasses....! The point is he shouldn't be at the club and we should have got rid to Stoke. ..he's not the only one but this hero worship is remarkable!!
Don't move the goalposts, he's clearly not the liability to the team you previously stated.

Also considering the players around him have achieved considerably less than that in his absence it suggests he'd be even less of a liability with a better team around him. He's clearly an asset to us, not a liability.
 
The point is rocky me old mucker..improving from rubbish suggests he shouldn't have been playing in the first place...what is the obsession with the bloke...? Gets stuck is my bet!!

Does his second half performance not suggest he should have been playing like? Or does that not count?
 
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