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coyneeee said:
Because I watched the fight in the bars last night... Only just hearing about how they made Brook change gloves during Khan's ring-walk because they decided they wanted Thai-Leather instead of Horsehair (the latter is basically like getting hit bare knuckle, but Khan changed his mind literally last second)

Makes it all even more impressive for me... If you put a pair of brand new genuine gloves on and feel how rigid and tight they are like wearing a new pair of trainers, absolute zero time to break into them
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Commentary were saying it was due to Brook not wearing Grant gloves. All that is written in the contract, so whatever the issue was it's a bit weird.
 

Just checked and looks like Brook tried to come out in Fly gloves, who WBC have banned in their bouts. Still legal under BBBoC it seems, but Brook probably just playing mind games as he will have known he needed to wear contracted and picked pair of gloves
 
It was like a man against a boy in the finish. Kell looked far bigger than a flat Khan. Bullied him as easily as I expected.

A decent fight would be Brook / Benn. Brook was a couple of levels up from Benn in his prime but Benn's star is still rising. Well matched weigh wise too.

Eubank is far too big for both Brook and Benn. Catch weight.
 
samsafc said:
he didn’t say that like. Either way, glad he won! I had round 4, shite. Paddy power either fighter to win by KO was buying money tho
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He didnt exactly say 1-6 either which automatically makes me think he means in the 6th round. What was the price for ko by either btw marra?
 
Sinbad Skullhead said:
That was exactly my feeling at tge time. Berto was shot at that point and Khan was the biggest fight and more money. Wouldve been a huge fight. He was defo weary of the speed of khan. Khan was mocked for saying mayweather was avoiding him but it was true imho mayweather has fought everyone who was biggest payday and berto was definitely not that.
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Khan was definitely the riskier fight at that stage in Mayweather’s career.

I do think Mayweather’s counter right hand probably would have been the decider, but I really don’t think he fancied risking his legacy against Khan’s relentless speed. As we seen in the ODLH fight, some people can be swayed by volume.
 
the dark one said:
He was hurt ffs. Taking punishment and offering nothing. Correct decision in my eyes.
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I watched the reply a couple of times.
Yes, he'd been hurt and he was covering up - but was still completely defending himself, and for about 15s before the stoppage, zero shots had landed iirc.

You're right that he wasn't firing back though, he was trying to recover. That probably made the decision for the ref.

I do think he'd have been stopped later mind, I just think there needs to be a little bit more before the refs stop fights. The lasses fight before it was another case in point.
THE CLOCKSTAND CLOCK said:
Khan looked beat on way to ring walking through car park .Reminded me of Bruno V Tyson 2 on way from locker room Bruno looked beat already .Same with Khan tonight he didn’t look right walking to the ring .Still the better man won.
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He's basically said the same, no love for the game anymore.
He looked broken on that walk.
Thunder Road said:
Khan's career will always be downplayed due to his apparent "lack of chin".
2 time World champion and was a unified champion aswell.
Absolute quality fighter in his prime and possibly the best to watch!
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Last night was another proof about his chin.
He took loads of massive shots, and kept going.

His chin was easy to hit. It wasn't weak.
PeteFTM said:
I think so, but then Hatton fought Mayweather in his absolute prime

Iirc the Khan fight was touted before he fought Berto... would have been a difficult night for Mayweather at that stage in his career. I don’t think he fancied the relentless speed... the sort of thing that somehow convinced some people that ODLH beat him.
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Hatton was past his prime by then too. He'd forgot how to actually fight, and seemed to only remember how to clinch and try to work inside.
 
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PTR said:
I watched the reply a couple of times.
Yes, he'd been hurt and he was covering up - but was still completely defending himself, and for about 15s before the stoppage, zero shots had landed iirc.

You're right that he wasn't firing back though, he was trying to recover. That probably made the decision for the ref.

I do think he'd have been stopped later mind, I just think there needs to be a little bit more before the refs stop fights. The lasses fight before it was another case in point.

He's basically said the same, no love for the game anymore.
He looked broken on that walk.

Last night was another proof about his chin.
He took loads of massive shots, and kept going.

His chin was easy to hit. It wasn't weak.

Hatton was past his prime by then too. He'd forgot how to actually fight, and seemed to only remember how to clinch and try to work inside.
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Was literally shouting fire back...and then stoppage. Could argue another 10/15 seconds but was game over him sadly
 
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One thing that struck me was how cool Dom Ingle was in the corner. He knew it was inevitable from the first minute, almost laughing in the corner at times. Kell should never have left him.
 
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I still believe Khan has a weak chin. A stiff jab can stiffen his legs. Where he has matured is back in the day when he was hurt he would swing for the fences and get caught cold so inevitably some of his KOs are highlight reel stuff…now he has the sense to cover up and move or hold on. If he could take a punch like Brook he would be even greater than he was (granted, his face might be made of metal plates too).
 
Titus said:
Daft comment this mind. There's a reason Sky were pushing this last night.

As to the later comparisons to Grove... Groves walked around as cruiser/heavyweight. I know Kell has always been a big Welter/Light middle, but just incomparable to somebody like Groves


It was the perfect time to make both Canelo v GGG and Brook v Khan. Instead we got Khan get iced by Canelo and Brook get his eye turned to rubble by GGG :lol:
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Aye, in the same way the casual observer thought Eubank could give Groves a fight or Khan could give Brook a fight. The gulf in quality should have told anyone that neither was going to happen.

Same with Eubank fighting Brook. Eubank can't box. He's now turned to a Roy Jones style of fighting, which is sensible really because he is a good athlete and will achieve more that way than standing trying to box world level opponents who have the fundamentals and more, but turning to that style at this stage of his career tells you he just hasn't got what it takes at world level and his camp know it. If they fought in 6 months time, Brook would be so far ahead on the scorecards after 8 rounds that Eubank would need a stoppage, Brook will just time him with ease for as long as he has some gas left in the tank. What Eubank is, is tough and he has stamina. Brook won't stop him, doesn't matter how much he times him and what he hits him with, so Brook could tire down the straight and his smashed face could catch up with him, that's a possibility. But, in term of boxing ability, which Brook still has, Eubank is not remotely in the same league, they're a good number of levels apart. Groves took Eubank apart with ease, made him look like the average fighter he is, and Brook is on another level to Groves in terms of boxing ability.
 
Locke's SAFC said:
Aye, in the same way the casual observer thought Eubank could give Groves a fight or Khan could give Brook a fight. The gulf in quality should have told anyone that neither was going to happen.

Same with Eubank fighting Brook. Eubank can't box. He's now turned to a Roy Jones style of fighting, which is sensible really because he is a good athlete and will achieve more that way than standing trying to box world level opponents who have the fundamentals and more, but turning to that style at this stage of his career tells you he just hasn't got what it takes at world level and his camp know it. If they fought in 6 months time, Brook would be so far ahead on the scorecards after 8 rounds that Eubank would need a stoppage, Brook will just time him with ease for as long as he has some gas left in the tank. What Eubank is, is tough and he has stamina. Brook won't stop him, doesn't matter how much he times him and what he hits him with, so Brook could tire down the straight and his smashed face could catch up with him, that's a possibility. But, in term of boxing ability, which Brook still has, Eubank is not remotely in the same league, they're a good number of levels apart. Groves took Eubank apart with ease, made him look like the average fighter he is, and Brook is on another level to Groves in terms of boxing ability.
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Your forgetting that Kell is a light middleweight at best....Eubank is a monster at middleweight.
Are you aware that if they fought at middleweight Eubank would be at least a stone heavier on the night....Kell dosent hit hard enough to keep Eubank off him for 12 rounds regardless of boxing ability....ludicrous to think otherwise. Eubank walks him down in exactly the same way ggg did...
 
Keith S30S said:
It was like a man against a boy in the finish. Kell looked far bigger than a flat Khan. Bullied him as easily as I expected.

A decent fight would be Brook / Benn. Brook was a couple of levels up from Benn in his prime but Benn's star is still rising. Well matched weigh wise too.

Eubank is far too big for both Brook and Benn. Catch weight.
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Now that is a fight Brook should not be taking. Benn has improved a lot and he has the spite and power to do a lot of damage to Kell's already damaged face. Again, Brook is a much better fighter than Benn, but Benn has youth on his side and would be dangerous for the health of a tired Kell Brook.

Brook doesn't have anywhere to go from here but retirement. He's got nothing to prove to anyone and he's not capable of winning worled titles at this stage, and for the sake of his health he should call it a day.
 
Boris Bear said:
I still believe Khan has a weak chin. A stiff jab can stiffen his legs. Where he has matured is back in the day when he was hurt he would swing for the fences and get caught cold so inevitably some of his KOs are highlight reel stuff…now he has the sense to cover up and move or hold on. If he could take a punch like Brook he would be even greater than he was (granted, his face might be made of metal plates too).
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I don’t think it’s a weak chin, it’s more of an exposed one.
 
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