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Manbearpig81
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Yes I'm a f***ing idiot but I am a f***ing idiot who said nothing about his test average thanks for the info though.
Root his replacement in the middle order averages 50.
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Yes I'm a f***ing idiot but I am a f***ing idiot who said nothing about his test average thanks for the info though.
Root his replacement in the middle order averages 50.
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johnson
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That is my point, do you not think KP had as much natural talent as them? It's possible he did like and didn't reach their heights.
It is all high level stuff, but that is what needs to be discussed if he is thought about in the top bracket.
Berate him? are you taking the piss? I am asking peoples opinions on it. Jesus wept.
Dan Hodges was the journalist who wrote (after the 're-intergration') that Pietersen was poison in the dressing room and his re-call would completely destroy the team ethic built up under Fletcher.
I might ask him for the lottery numbers.
Was hardly hard to work that one out like was it, was always going to happen. Players didn't trust him since that, rightfully so.
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Big Bad Bri
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KP is one of the guests on the Graham Norton show tonight. Hats off to his PR team - they're getting the book far more exposure than it probably deserves.
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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At 2.14pm yesterday you said the following;
"I have already posted columns from Atherton and Nasser that back up everything I have said, it is remarkable, this is not a one man crusade by me, it is view shared by most of the cricketing world"
I have asked you several times to back up your claim of "it is view shared by most of the cricketing world". You seem to be avoiding my question. Nasser and Atherton aren't "most of the cricketing world"
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Top Of The Goths
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He does this all the time. The lad is thick as fuck.
He once lost it at me, going mental because Id apprently said I was better than Gerrard and Lampard.
I must have asked him about 20 times to show me where id said that and not once did he respond
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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I don't agree with his views but he needs to back up what he is saying if he is putting a view across as strongly as what he is on this thread. Just makes him look silly by avoiding to back up his claim.
Cee Jay
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While I agree the ECB haven't handled it well at all my own view is he should never have been integrated back into the side after the texts carry on.
Can you imagine say John O'shea( mates with Man U players etc) going up to De gea and telling him where the Sunderland penalty taker is about to place his spot kick !!
Now it doesn't matter one bit if De Gea already knew what side he favoured( just as tips for getting Strauss out might be widely known)
Would you want O'shea( or KP) playing for you again ?
I certainly wouldn't
Can you imagine say John O'shea( mates with Man U players etc) going up to De gea and telling him where the Sunderland penalty taker is about to place his spot kick !!
Now it doesn't matter one bit if De Gea already knew what side he favoured( just as tips for getting Strauss out might be widely known)
Would you want O'shea( or KP) playing for you again ?
I certainly wouldn't
mackembhoy
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One of the best thats been done. Although I'm loving the way the ECB has handled this. Those wankers needed to be shown to be a laughing stock.
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Manbearpig81
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ECB must be kicking themselves for bringing him back. To rub salt into their wounds he's averaged 36 in tests and 28 in ODI's since being reintergrated. Hardly worth it at all.
Bri
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Yea, pretty much says what I think.
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johnson
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From people I respect I should of said then
I have no idea why you are using Ponting as an example, he got hammered by England. Graeme Smith? He is one of KP's best mates man ffs
Anything else!
I am comparing it to what went on in England dressing rooms in the past, and Nasser and Athers don't think it was anything different. If you want to keep believing KP well go for it.
This is a quote from Boycott
"Yes Kevin was awkward, difficult, different and at times his own worst enemy. But his record and his performances do not deserve a character assassination."
Ok fair enough, but can you please explain why Prior and other good England players deserve a character assassination by KP? It works both ways.
Yep, just the innings in Mumbai really, which was important, but it hasn't been worth the hassle at all like, live and learn I guess.
pretty much where I stand.
I have backed up everything I have said on here numerous times, I didn't even knew I said that particularly quote you seemed to be obsessed with.
You sound like KP there kid.
You seem to think that the entire public is on KP's side. Rightly or wrongly I don't think they are, and I am not sure why you presume that they are either.
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Top Of The Goths
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Why lie? KP has never even talked about being in the England side instead of Gerrard and Lampard. Neither have I for that matter
smoker
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Only a complete idiot would try to assert Kevin Pietersen was anything other than an excellent batsman for England.
An egotistical berk, but nonetheless an excellent batsman.
Surprised you didn't point out Gary Ballance averages over 60 in eight tests. If either of them is averaging 47 after 104 tests then they will rightly be remembered as excellent batsmen.
'Pietersen hasn't got a cricketing brain' has to be the most laughable thing I've read on this forum, and that includes NOMOREFALSEDREAMS.
GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Must admit it's one of the most staggering statements I've read on any cricket forum/cricket article ever. As a Durham supporter I hope the likes of our lads and Ben Stokes with England average what KP did over 104 games without a cricketing brain, I'd be very happy indeed and we'd be winning the Championship every season
Ah right so from "most in the cricketing world" to 2 people you respect. Big difference
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Manbearpig81
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Ok @smoker you've clearly got issues with me disagreeing with him being Englands greatest ever batsman because he's the highest run scorer in all formats. I think thats a misleading record because he has played so much more than the other English greats in ODI's and T20's due to how crickets changed thats all. I totally agree he has been an excellent batsman for England. He might be Englands greatest (not for me) but it wont be because he was leading run scorer in all formats.
I have never said he didn't have cricketing brain and I think at his peak he had a clear idea of what he was trying to do to each bowler other than SLA's.
I do agree with you he was an egotistical berk and I also think he is an egotisitical berk who’s ageing, has dodgy knees and diminishing powers who pretty much since the end of the summer in 2012 I would've been happy to see the back of.
I have never said he didn't have cricketing brain and I think at his peak he had a clear idea of what he was trying to do to each bowler other than SLA's.
I do agree with you he was an egotistical berk and I also think he is an egotisitical berk who’s ageing, has dodgy knees and diminishing powers who pretty much since the end of the summer in 2012 I would've been happy to see the back of.
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stephen cartwright
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i wish the odis in sri lanka would hurry up. was always going to be a shame for all sides of the argument
thanks to pietersen for the change for the good to attacking batting in tests and his part in the t20 win
thanks to all the other lads who g
ave us some fantastic memories especially after 25 years of oz domination in oz and numerous other triumphs
thanks to pietersen for the change for the good to attacking batting in tests and his part in the t20 win
thanks to all the other lads who g
ave us some fantastic memories especially after 25 years of oz domination in oz and numerous other triumphs
Bri
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It's not right.
tbh, I've heard nothing that I wouldn't expect to see anywhere except. I'm sure players form little groups in every dressing room, when those groups they become cliques it becomes counter-productive and the 'leadership' needs to get a grip. Strauss didn't apparently because he was on the way out and Cook hasn't and flower didn't.
As for the 'tweets'. I see nothing wrong with tweeting to people/friends in the opposition just as I see nothing wrong that in the old days players would meet up after a match and have a drink and have a natter. I would see something wrong if KP passed on tactical plans, he says he didn't and it must be hard to do that in 140 characters anyway.
This dossier interests me too. It's the kind of thing you get asked to do sometimes when you want to get rid of someone but you don't have a solid reason.
Manager: I want to get rid of X
Higher Manager: Why, is he playing badly?
Manager: Not really.
Higher Manager: Does he refuse to do his job?
Manager: Not really.
Higher Manager: Then why?
Manager: Well, he's a bad influence.
Higher Manager: In what way?
Manager: Well, he looks out of the window.
Higher Manager: But he is one of our better players though, right?
Manager: Yea, but....
Higher Manager: I tell you want, you write down everything tha happens and we'll see.
To me it smacks of someone wanting to get rid but not having a good reason to do it.
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