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[Cee Jay]

On talkshite is the most nauseating radio you will ever get...Clearly putting only pro kp callers through.

Think he might get an easy time from his best man and that two faced fucker durham.

Says a lot that he has that f***ing simpleton as best man after knowing him months. ...anyone would think he hasn't got any mates..

 

[johnson]

It's worth noting these are all alleged comments, but regardless of that you seem to be branding KP a bully yet totally dismissing his bullying claims, which I guess suits your agenda. Staggering that some people are even blaming him for Aggers doing a Swanny last night.

You laugh about Shahzad but I am just throwing in another name, nothing more nothing less. You suggested "most of the cricketing world" yet mention only 2 people, very odd. Who are "most of the cricketing world" you talk about. Name names, show me quotes as I am keen to see what "most of the cricketing world" has to say about it.

I haven't mentioned anything about average players. You cannot argue with Cook's batting record but he's been made to be one of the biggest puppets in English sporting history by The ECB which I find quite sad as it's badly affected his game and confidence

The whole book is bullying, thats the point, it is page to page bullying. There is literally a whole chapter slagging off Matt Prior.

Shahzad shouldn't even be mentioned though, see Atherton's last paragraph for thoughts on him.

 

[Geronimo]

Just been listening to the interview on Talksport (16.30 - Thursday).

I don't follow cricket and don't know the full KP saga. However, just listening to his tone, mannerisms and delivery while being interviewed, I wouldn't trust a word he says. He sounds conceited and overbearing

 

[BIG BAZ]

so far up his own arse its unreal

 

[LB Jeffries]

so far up his own arse its unreal

Of course he is, and I'm no fan of KP as a person. But there's no doubt there's been serious problems in the dressing room that have been left to fester because of a lack of competent leadership at both captaincy and administrative level. It's all becoming a bit of a joke now.

 

[BIG BAZ]

I like what the lad has just said there.....he's in serious danger of being remembered as a complete hoop instead of one of England's finest ever batsmen

Still very keen to play for England again mind

 

[CollingwoodFTM]

Doesnt matter whether its football or cricket, it seems some sunderland folk will always favour average players who tow the line over pure talent with an a bit it of an ego

Rubbish. If you think KP has 'a bit of an ego' you're no judge of character.

KP has talent but has proved over the years that he has not developed a cricket brain. His shot selection at crucial points in test matches was dreadful.

 

[dangermows]

Rubbish. If you think KP has 'a bit of an ego' you're no judge of character.

KP has talent but has proved over the years that he has not developed a cricket brain. His shot selection at crucial points in test matches was dreadful.

Imagine how many runs he would have got if his shot selection was good eh!?

Yes he got out to daft shots sometimes but those were the same shots, that when they came off, people were loving! You have to take the rough with smooth.

His role was to attack and take the game away. No other player could change a game as quickly as him. A fantastic batsman which ever way yu look at it.

I like what the lad has just said there.....he's in serious danger of being remembered as a complete hoop instead of one of England's finest ever batsmen

Still very keen to play for England again mind

He will go down in history as one if the best players to play for England, no doubt about it. People won't give two shiny poos about a text message.

 

[smoker]

Rubbish. If you think KP has 'a bit of an ego' you're no judge of character.

KP has talent but has proved over the years that he has not developed a cricket brain. His shot selection at crucial points in test matches was dreadful.

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The bloke is England's top run scorer in all formats!

 

[Manbearpig81]

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The bloke is England's top run scorer in all formats!

As far as records go that's a shit one to have, only Colly and Stewart have played as many games.

 

[johnson]

Of course he is, and I'm no fan of KP as a person. But there's no doubt there's been serious problems in the dressing room that have been left to fester because of a lack of competent leadership at both captaincy and administrative level. It's all becoming a bit of a joke now.

No....... problems with one player, and one player only

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

From the way KP was talking on SSN on Monday, "The ECB have made it really difficult for Cookie, when I got sacked, he sat there, staring at the ground"

First bit is interesting, did Cook want to keep KP and the ECB basically told Cook tough??

Cook has looked a nervous wreck for a long time which is very sad. I was all for dropping him for his own benefit at one stage as it was becoming a farce. KP doesn't appear to have an issue with Cook which I didn't expe

The whole book is bullying, thats the point, it is page to page bullying. There is literally a whole chapter slagging off Matt Prior.

Shahzad shouldn't even be mentioned though, see Atherton's last paragraph for thoughts on him.

I'm still waiting or you to back up your "most of the cricketing world" claim

KP has talent but has proved over the years that he has not developed a cricket brain.

Well if that's the case I hope Ben Stokes develops the same brain.

 

[Bri]

Dan Hodges writes in the Telegraph .....

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This morning English cricket is eating itself alive. Or rather, it’s tweeting itself to death.

The latest casualty of

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is Jonathan Agnew, the BBC’s cricket correspondent, who has just announced he is leaving Twitter after becoming involved in a public Twitter spat with Pietersen’s wife. At the same time, bowler Tim Bresnan has popped up on the social networking medium to inform the world he had no role in setting up a spoof account that mocked his former team-mate, and which Pietersen claims reduced him to tears. This contradicts a statement from former England star Alec Stewart, who said yesterday he had been given information that Bresnan, Stuart Broad and Graeme Swann all had access to the account. Meanwhile the ECB has been forced to deny reports Barbara Windsor was spotted running topless through the England dressing room on the eve of the crucial third Ashes test at the Waca, followed by Ken Dodd, Billy Smart and the Krankies.

Those of us who cherish the thwack of willow against anything leaving the hand of Simon Kerrigan are supposed to be in despair today. Our national game is being torn apart in front of our eyes. It’s like watching the final reel of a Peckinpah movie, with bats and balls instead of guns and bullets. “The rancour needs to stop for the sake of everyone,” implored Mike Atherton in his Times column.

I disagree. I don’t think it needs to stop at all. In fact, I want more of it.

I’ve been watching England play cricket for decades. I dread to think of how much money I’ve spent shuttling between Lords and the Oval. Middlesex membership, Surrey membership, Test match tickets that go for £50 a pop.

And while I’ve been doing that I’ve been lied to. Lied to by the players. By the ECB. The lot of them.

I knew I was being lied to, of course. I’ve read enough cricket books and articles to know the image I was being presented with – strong team spirit, comradeship, solidarity in adversity – was a false one. Nasser Hussain famously said team spirit was something he saw when his side was winning, never when they were losing. When I read that I knew he at least was telling the truth.

Everything we’ve been told about English cricket for the last five or six years was a fantasy. A deliberately constructed fiction. We were told England’s success had been built upon a foundation of mutual respect amongst the players. In fact it had been built around a culture of bullying. We were told the management had instilled a culture of squad unity. Instead they were operating juvenile, playground cliques.

When Kevin Pietersen was found to have been texting England’s South African opponents with negative comments about his captain Andrew Strauss, we were told he had broken the side’s own internal moral code. We now know they had no moral code.

When Pietersen was “reintegrated” within the team we were told that process had passed off successfully and seamlessly. We now know that was a lie. When England arrived in Australia for the their defence of the Ashes we were told the team were happy and unified. We now know that was a lie too.

I understand why were lied to. Public relations is a key component of modern professional sport.

But I don’t understand why we are all supposed to be in despair that all the lying has stopped and the truth is finally out there. Some people have argued that the omerta surrounding the team has been broken. The sanctity of the dressing room has been defiled.

That’s tough. If the ECB are happy for Matt Prior to tweet pictures of himself in the dressing room with his arm around his mate “KP”, with honeyed words about “reintegration complete”, fine. But then they can’t then complain when it emerges it was all rubbish, and Pietersen and Prior actually hate one another’s guts.

Well, they can complain. But we shouldn’t complain. We should want the truth, not some false PR construct.

I’ve been critical of Kevin Pietersen in the past, but good for him. Good for him for bringing the whole house of cards crashing down, and exposing the entire rotten mess. The bullying. The cliques. The egos. The back-stabbing. Good on whoever leaked the ECB “file” on Pietersen’s alleged indiscretions as well. Let’s get it all out there. Let’s allow those of us who follow the game, and pay for the game, see what we’re actually paying for. And then we can draw our own conclusions, rather than the conclusions the ECB PR men and the agents and the officials think it would be best for us to draw.

Mike Atherton is wrong. The rancour doesn’t need to stop, it needs to continue. Let the poison out. Let the truth come out. Go on KP, open the doors of that dark and fetid English dressing room, and let the sunlight in.

 

[johnson]

Cook has looked a nervous wreck for a long time which is very sad. I was all for dropping him for his own benefit at one stage as it was becoming a farce. KP doesn't appear to have an issue with Cook which I didn't expe


I'm still waiting or you to back up your "most of the cricketing world" claim



Well if that's the case I hope Ben Stokes develops the same brain.

Do you not think KP slightly under achieved given his talent? I am not taking anything away from him by the way before you have a go, but he is nowhere near the likes of Ponting and Kallis and even Sangakkara

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

Do you not think KP slightly under achieved given his talent? I am not taking anything away from him by the way before you have a go, but he is nowhere near the likes of Ponting and Kallis and even Sangakkara

I'm still waiting or you to back up your "most of the cricketing world" claim

Hurry up, you've had about 7 hours

 

[Top Of The Goths]

You still avoiding the average player claim, and Cook's record I notice.

You showed yourself up there like.

Ah the old 'make a complete tit of yourself and project it onto everyone else' Johnson signature move.

 

[RokerLegend]

Dan Hodges writes in the Telegraph .....

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and for those without access

This morning English cricket is eating itself alive. Or rather, it’s tweeting itself to death.

The latest casualty of

You must be logged on to see external links

is Jonathan Agnew, the BBC’s cricket correspondent, who has just announced he is leaving Twitter after becoming involved in a public Twitter spat with Pietersen’s wife. At the same time, bowler Tim Bresnan has popped up on the social networking medium to inform the world he had no role in setting up a spoof account that mocked his former team-mate, and which Pietersen claims reduced him to tears. This contradicts a statement from former England star Alec Stewart, who said yesterday he had been given information that Bresnan, Stuart Broad and Graeme Swann all had access to the account. Meanwhile the ECB has been forced to deny reports Barbara Windsor was spotted running topless through the England dressing room on the eve of the crucial third Ashes test at the Waca, followed by Ken Dodd, Billy Smart and the Krankies.

Those of us who cherish the thwack of willow against anything leaving the hand of Simon Kerrigan are supposed to be in despair today. Our national game is being torn apart in front of our eyes. It’s like watching the final reel of a Peckinpah movie, with bats and balls instead of guns and bullets. “The rancour needs to stop for the sake of everyone,” implored Mike Atherton in his Times column.

I disagree. I don’t think it needs to stop at all. In fact, I want more of it.

I’ve been watching England play cricket for decades. I dread to think of how much money I’ve spent shuttling between Lords and the Oval. Middlesex membership, Surrey membership, Test match tickets that go for £50 a pop.

And while I’ve been doing that I’ve been lied to. Lied to by the players. By the ECB. The lot of them.

I knew I was being lied to, of course. I’ve read enough cricket books and articles to know the image I was being presented with – strong team spirit, comradeship, solidarity in adversity – was a false one. Nasser Hussain famously said team spirit was something he saw when his side was winning, never when they were losing. When I read that I knew he at least was telling the truth.

Everything we’ve been told about English cricket for the last five or six years was a fantasy. A deliberately constructed fiction. We were told England’s success had been built upon a foundation of mutual respect amongst the players. In fact it had been built around a culture of bullying. We were told the management had instilled a culture of squad unity. Instead they were operating juvenile, playground cliques.

When Kevin Pietersen was found to have been texting England’s South African opponents with negative comments about his captain Andrew Strauss, we were told he had broken the side’s own internal moral code. We now know they had no moral code.

When Pietersen was “reintegrated” within the team we were told that process had passed off successfully and seamlessly. We now know that was a lie. When England arrived in Australia for the their defence of the Ashes we were told the team were happy and unified. We now know that was a lie too.

I understand why were lied to. Public relations is a key component of modern professional sport.

But I don’t understand why we are all supposed to be in despair that all the lying has stopped and the truth is finally out there. Some people have argued that the omerta surrounding the team has been broken. The sanctity of the dressing room has been defiled.

That’s tough. If the ECB are happy for Matt Prior to tweet pictures of himself in the dressing room with his arm around his mate “KP”, with honeyed words about “reintegration complete”, fine. But then they can’t then complain when it emerges it was all rubbish, and Pietersen and Prior actually hate one another’s guts.

Well, they can complain. But we shouldn’t complain. We should want the truth, not some false PR construct.

I’ve been critical of Kevin Pietersen in the past, but good for him. Good for him for bringing the whole house of cards crashing down, and exposing the entire rotten mess. The bullying. The cliques. The egos. The back-stabbing. Good on whoever leaked the ECB “file” on Pietersen’s alleged indiscretions as well. Let’s get it all out there. Let’s allow those of us who follow the game, and pay for the game, see what we’re actually paying for. And then we can draw our own conclusions, rather than the conclusions the ECB PR men and the agents and the officials think it would be best for us to draw.

Mike Atherton is wrong. The rancour doesn’t need to stop, it needs to continue. Let the poison out. Let the truth come out. Go on KP, open the doors of that dark and fetid English dressing room, and let the sunlight in.

Superb article that and sums up how I feel about the whole thing. Whatever side of the fence you fall on what a fcking shambles.

 

[Steak Pie]

Dan Hodges writes in the Telegraph .....

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and for those without access

This morning English cricket is eating itself alive. Or rather, it’s tweeting itself to death.

The latest casualty of

You must be logged on to see external links

is Jonathan Agnew, the BBC’s cricket correspondent, who has just announced he is leaving Twitter after becoming involved in a public Twitter spat with Pietersen’s wife. At the same time, bowler Tim Bresnan has popped up on the social networking medium to inform the world he had no role in setting up a spoof account that mocked his former team-mate, and which Pietersen claims reduced him to tears. This contradicts a statement from former England star Alec Stewart, who said yesterday he had been given information that Bresnan, Stuart Broad and Graeme Swann all had access to the account. Meanwhile the ECB has been forced to deny reports Barbara Windsor was spotted running topless through the England dressing room on the eve of the crucial third Ashes test at the Waca, followed by Ken Dodd, Billy Smart and the Krankies.

Those of us who cherish the thwack of willow against anything leaving the hand of Simon Kerrigan are supposed to be in despair today. Our national game is being torn apart in front of our eyes. It’s like watching the final reel of a Peckinpah movie, with bats and balls instead of guns and bullets. “The rancour needs to stop for the sake of everyone,” implored Mike Atherton in his Times column.

I disagree. I don’t think it needs to stop at all. In fact, I want more of it.

I’ve been watching England play cricket for decades. I dread to think of how much money I’ve spent shuttling between Lords and the Oval. Middlesex membership, Surrey membership, Test match tickets that go for £50 a pop.

And while I’ve been doing that I’ve been lied to. Lied to by the players. By the ECB. The lot of them.

I knew I was being lied to, of course. I’ve read enough cricket books and articles to know the image I was being presented with – strong team spirit, comradeship, solidarity in adversity – was a false one. Nasser Hussain famously said team spirit was something he saw when his side was winning, never when they were losing. When I read that I knew he at least was telling the truth.

Everything we’ve been told about English cricket for the last five or six years was a fantasy. A deliberately constructed fiction. We were told England’s success had been built upon a foundation of mutual respect amongst the players. In fact it had been built around a culture of bullying. We were told the management had instilled a culture of squad unity. Instead they were operating juvenile, playground cliques.

When Kevin Pietersen was found to have been texting England’s South African opponents with negative comments about his captain Andrew Strauss, we were told he had broken the side’s own internal moral code. We now know they had no moral code.

When Pietersen was “reintegrated” within the team we were told that process had passed off successfully and seamlessly. We now know that was a lie. When England arrived in Australia for the their defence of the Ashes we were told the team were happy and unified. We now know that was a lie too.

I understand why were lied to. Public relations is a key component of modern professional sport.

But I don’t understand why we are all supposed to be in despair that all the lying has stopped and the truth is finally out there. Some people have argued that the omerta surrounding the team has been broken. The sanctity of the dressing room has been defiled.

That’s tough. If the ECB are happy for Matt Prior to tweet pictures of himself in the dressing room with his arm around his mate “KP”, with honeyed words about “reintegration complete”, fine. But then they can’t then complain when it emerges it was all rubbish, and Pietersen and Prior actually hate one another’s guts.

Well, they can complain. But we shouldn’t complain. We should want the truth, not some false PR construct.

I’ve been critical of Kevin Pietersen in the past, but good for him. Good for him for bringing the whole house of cards crashing down, and exposing the entire rotten mess. The bullying. The cliques. The egos. The back-stabbing. Good on whoever leaked the ECB “file” on Pietersen’s alleged indiscretions as well. Let’s get it all out there. Let’s allow those of us who follow the game, and pay for the game, see what we’re actually paying for. And then we can draw our own conclusions, rather than the conclusions the ECB PR men and the agents and the officials think it would be best for us to draw.

Mike Atherton is wrong. The rancour doesn’t need to stop, it needs to continue. Let the poison out. Let the truth come out. Go on KP, open the doors of that dark and fetid English dressing room, and let the sunlight in.

Dan Hodges was the journalist who wrote (after the 're-intergration') that Pietersen was poison in the dressing room and his re-call would completely destroy the team ethic built up under Fletcher.

I might ask him for the lottery numbers.

 

[johnson]

I'm still waiting or you to back up your "most of the cricketing world" claim

Hurry up, you've had about 7 hours

Pardon?

 

[smoker]

As far as records go that's a shit one to have, only Colly and Stewart have played as many games.

Averages 47 in test cricket. Only Boycott has a higher average in modern times.

Some right f***ing idiots on here.

Do you not think KP slightly under achieved given his talent? I am not taking anything away from him by the way before you have a go, but he is nowhere near the likes of Ponting and Kallis and even Sangakkara

You're not taking anything away from him, then berate him for not matching up to three of the greatest batsmen in our age.

Well I like Jimmy but he's nee Glenn McGrath...