Kodi stream blocking "game changer"


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Yes. Take it you don’t understand how the internet works.
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Yes I do :lol: providers are banning it from the server end.
That cannot work mate, how can a provider (assuming you mean isp) block ssl based vpns without affecting genuine ones?

If I have a vpn to the states for work use, I can also use that to stream. If isps block it they wipe out masses of genuine users.

If they can block the stream at source, ie they can identify the IP address producing the stream, then the fact you might be routing your box via a VPN isn't relevant. I'll concede that you might still be able to use a box via VPN to access a source that is streaming legitimately in its own particular jurisdiction. What they're doing will make it harder to find a stream.
Mate, you're wrong.

Who are "they"v
 
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That cannot work mate, how can a provider (assuming you mean isp) block ssl based vpns without affecting genuine ones?

If I have a vpn to the states for work use, I can also use that to stream. If isps block it they wipe out masses of genuine users.


Mate, you're wrong.

Who are "they"v

What the article is talking about is the ability of the copyright holders to go after the host IP of the stream, not the VPN, ie if the stream is coming from IP address 1.2.3.4, they go after that, not the end user.
 
Then they change to 2.2.3.4

Yep, it can end up as whack-a-mole; I'm guessing that they want to discourage streams by messing them up as much as they can, in the hope that the streamers get discouraged before they do. Of course, the nuclear option would be to block all IPs associated with a particular hosting service, and then rely on the meltdown from legitimate users to get the streamers barred by their hosts.
 
Plenty of ways around it, they'll never stop live streams they should just embrace them and make money off them by offering season tickets to watch online, 90% of other sports let you so why should English football be so f***ing different.
 
Yep, it can end up as whack-a-mole; I'm guessing that they want to discourage streams by messing them up as much as they can, in the hope that the streamers get discouraged before they do. Of course, the nuclear option would be to block all IPs associated with a particular hosting service, and then rely on the meltdown from legitimate users to get the streamers barred by their hosts.

Wont happen pure fantasy. Movie studios are much more powerful than the premier league and you can still watch films on cinema for free.

People streaming are more intelligent than those chasing and dont have to keep to the law.
 
Kodi in general has been very hit and miss for me the last week or so. I am guessing its Plusnet playing clever buggers.
 
What the article is talking about is the ability of the copyright holders to go after the host IP of the stream, not the VPN, ie if the stream is coming from IP address 1.2.3.4, they go after that, not the end user.
But that is not how the internet works, if 1.2.3.4 is in Iran then sky, Plusnet or the uk government can do little about it without Irans help.

Plusnet could block it but vpns will circumvent that, you can't block vpns as they are used for legitimate purposes too.

Also by the time anything happens 1.2.3.4 will have moved to 5.6.7.8

The premier league and sky can never win as their is an army of people who are very skilled ready to defeat any counter measures.

The only way to stop it, is the provide a legitimate service at a reasonable price. Just like the music industry had to eventually do.
 
Yep, it can end up as whack-a-mole; I'm guessing that they want to discourage streams by messing them up as much as they can, in the hope that the streamers get discouraged before they do. Of course, the nuclear option would be to block all IPs associated with a particular hosting service, and then rely on the meltdown from legitimate users to get the streamers barred by their hosts.
Only your isp can block them, and a vpn will circumvent that.

Trying to stop the internet by blocking ips is very naive. The internet was designed to counter any attempts to disrupt it.
 
If they charged a reasonable price and had a wider choice they wouldn't have this problem. I have zero sympathy with Sky over this. Their failure to embrace streaming and consumer choice is extremely short sighted, bordering on arrogant. I just hope we as a club are sorted financially and not balls deep relying on tv money when a previously huge deal goes pop come renewal time.
 
If they charged a reasonable price and had a wider choice they wouldn't have this problem. I have zero sympathy with Sky over this. Their failure to embrace streaming and consumer choice is extremely short sighted, bordering on arrogant. I just hope we as a club are sorted financially and not balls deep relying on tv money when a previously huge deal goes pop come renewal time.

Tbf mate, the above is not Sky/BTs fault. All they can do is bid for the packages which the premier league offer. I dare say in an ideal world they'd love to stream every game.

It also has to be said mate, the premier league are in no danger of losing the big contracts. It's already been stated in the press that Netflix and Amazon are interested in challenging BT and Sky for the next deal, so the contracts will only get bigger for the foreseeable future.

Even in the unlikely event things do go tits up, the premier league will just launch its own channel
 
If they charged a reasonable price and had a wider choice they wouldn't have this problem. I have zero sympathy with Sky over this. Their failure to embrace streaming and consumer choice is extremely short sighted, bordering on arrogant. I just hope we as a club are sorted financially and not balls deep relying on tv money when a previously huge deal goes pop come renewal time.

You'll find that for us, and many other clubs, TV money has been fully used meeting day to day running costs, principally players' wages. If it does go pop, at least half the PL won't be able to pay their bills, let alone buy players.
 
Won't stop it happening but it's just more clart on for the ones looking to watch them, that is what they are trying to do, make them fed up so they give up. The free VPN's are not good anyway, very slow compared to a paid VPN but it's all cost and whole reason we try to find streams is not paying over the odds, will all mount up though when you're paying subs for watching and the VPN.
 
30 years ago I seem to remember that national radio didn't announce the game they had second half commentary of until 3pm, again because it was thought that fans would choose to listen to the second half in preference to attending the game.

In another few years the 3pm television blackout will seem just as ridiculous.
 
The free streams are likely to be the ones that are closed down quickly, as has been said before the subscription ones will probably just keep changing IP addresses. I use a subscription which has been closed to new members for well over a year now and never had any issues streaming live matches.

Almost all of the news stories are obviously written by people who have no idea how the internet works. Also trying to block VPN's would be a legal minefield.
 
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