Kevin Nolan


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Another signing 5 years too late.

Brought in as Sams spy in the camp, we could save some brass and get him to read a few threads here, thr only reason to sign him is if he is an amazing motivator, he would need a f***ing cattle prod to jolt our mob.
 
IF he signs and IF he's as bad as we all seem to think he is you'd have to seriously question Allardyce's judgement. Conversely, if he comes in and does a job we'd have to give him a lot of credit as its a brave decision with the potential to seriously damage his credibility.



Told you that earlier....;)

He's between a rock and a hard place. He has to do something,and he only gets one shot at it, so his is a choice between going for someone he thinks can produce something or going for someone he doesn't know as well. Either of them could fail....he has to go with the percentages,so he'll take the route he knows. Our problem is it'll be a deal for another aging player which will cost dearly if it doesn't work.
 
BSA might also get it wrong as he did last season when he shunted Downing back out wide when in the form of his life, too reliant on players who have done it for him in the past, without the means to play that way here even if Nolan still had the legs and ability. He's a good manager Allardyce - to a point, he's not infallible.

As I have said, his options are limited until the transfer window opens. He's already said in the media (which I thought was wrong of him BTW) that the player are not following his instructions. Would you rather he sat on his hands until the window opens...I wouldn't. If Nolan proves himself fit/quick enough to get a wage here then great, if he doesn't cut it then at lest BSA had a look.

West Ham's downturn in the second half of last season had a hell of a lot more with Song's bizarre 'don't give fuck' attitude than Downing playing wide. Nolan's return to their first team was a response to a problem at West Ham, not the cause.
 
I was going to say "he's better than Toivenen" but I'll not bother as that is hardly a ringing endorsement.

Its a big fat (like Nolan) no from me.
Good evening Rocky lad.
Here's a question for you:-
Who do you think is/was better, Nolan or Cattermole? I haven't given it thorough consideration but i'd like to hear your initial thoughts.
Another player i used to love to hate was Charlie Adam. Who do you think is/was better, Adam or Cattermole? My opinion of Adam has changed over time.
 
Good evening Rocky lad.
Here's a question for you:-
Who do you think is/was better, Nolan or Cattermole? I haven't given it thorough consideration but i'd like to hear your initial thoughts.
Another player i used to love to hate was Charlie Adam. Who do you think is/was better, Adam or Cattermole? My opinion of Adam has changed over time.
My initial thoughts are that Adam and Nolan are attacking midfielders and Cattermole isn't so the question is ridiculous as they'd carry out different roles in the team.

My initial thoughts are that Adam and Nolan are attacking midfielders and Cattermole isn't so the question is ridiculous as they'd carry out different roles in the team.

It's like asking who do you think is better Busquets or Iniesta? Obviously I'm not putting Catts, Lard Arse and Adam on the same level as those 2.

What a really stupid question you've asked me. A man with your professional background and in depth knowledge asking a questiok like that has left my gast flabbered.

You dopey twonk.
 
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As I have said, his options are limited until the transfer window opens. He's already said in the media (which I thought was wrong of him BTW) that the player are not following his instructions. Would you rather he sat on his hands until the window opens...I wouldn't. If Nolan proves himself fit/quick enough to get a wage here then great, if he doesn't cut it then at lest BSA had a look.

West Ham's downturn in the second half of last season had a hell of a lot more with Song's bizarre 'don't give fuck' attitude than Downing playing wide. Nolan's return to their first team was a response to a problem at West Ham, not the cause.

Surely he was talking about about defensive side of things though, which given his formation, some of their history and the guidlines they were given to encourage them coming forward from the touchline was perfectly understandable how we caved in against a decent Everton whom we gave unlimited chances too. If he can't get a tune from the attacking players and thinks Kevin Nolan till January will address this, then his reputation about getting the best out of players is bullshit (it is really, as it's about getting the best out of limited ways and attributes in the main).

And how will Nolan be 'quick' enough, he's never had any legs to be quick enough, especially the last few years when he's been even less mobile. He is 100% reliant on a target man playing him in, we'd end up wasting a wage on him and games when we don't have the time.

West Hams form almost entirely collapsed the moment Carroll and Nolan especially were reintroduced. They'd had a lot of praise earlier in the season for the football they were playing largely due to the pace up front and the creativity behind them. Sam quickly reverted back to old ways and the stagnant play not suprisingly returned instantly. We're not talking just results, we're talking the football they were playing so I'm unsure why you're mentioning Song's supposed attitude.
 
Tells you all you need to know about the attitude dominating the squad.
 
Good evening Rocky lad.
Here's a question for you:-
Who do you think is/was better, Nolan or Cattermole? I haven't given it thorough consideration but i'd like to hear your initial thoughts.
Another player i used to love to hate was Charlie Adam. Who do you think is/was better, Adam or Cattermole? My opinion of Adam has changed over time.

Nolan or Cattermole .As a midfielder Cattermole. Completely different types who play in different roles, both with limitations, but Cattermole can play without needing others to play in an exact way to get him to do a quite limited role. Though on a few occasions in his career Nolan was quite good in that role, he was in effect a striker though, not given the responsibility defensively and not having to lead the line. Even when younger playing a central midfield role both at Bolton and then early at Newcastle it was clear Nolan wasn't up to it and it's why he was bombed out at Bolton after being left out of the team and Newcastle first wondered what they'd bought.

Adam or Cattermole - complete polar opposites and although they play in different roles, at least comparison can be made here. Cattermole has fitness and is tenacious, works extremely hard and has a pretty basic game, on occasions he can play and sometimes he can be very effective. Sometimes he's too slow, too rash and looks out of his depth. With Adam he's a technically good footballer, has a bit of grit in his game, but has virtually nothing in the way of fitness and stamina. I'd take Adam into our team, though I think he'd have to be used sparingly, maybe more for home games.
 
My initial thoughts are that Adam and Nolan are attacking midfielders and Cattermole isn't so the question is ridiculous as they'd carry out different roles in the team.



It's like asking who do you think is better Busquets or Iniesta? Obviously I'm not putting Catts, Lard Arse and Adam on the same level as those 2.

What a really stupid question you've asked me. A man with your professional background and in depth knowledge asking a questiok like that has left my gast flabbered.

You dopey twonk.
I suppose it all depends on how you'd prefer us to play. Are you saying Nolan and Adam can't defend at all, or Cattermole can't attack at all?
As a professional who trained every day i'd be absolutely f*cking gutted to be pigeon holed into such a limited role. A professional sportsman who is not only limited to a certain position, but is limited to a certain derivative of that position in a very specific style of that position.
What next, a player to receive the ball, substitute him for a player to control the ball, then substitute him for a player to pass the f*cking ball?

You have a very limited view on players, maybe it's down to watching Cattermole so long he's clouded your judgement.
 
I suppose it all depends on how you'd prefer us to play. Are you saying Nolan and Adam can't defend at all, or Cattermole can't attack at all?
As a professional who trained every day i'd be absolutely f*cking gutted to be pigeon holed into such a limited role. A professional sportsman who is not only limited to a certain position, but is limited to a certain derivative of that position in a very specific style of that position.
What next, a player to receive the ball, substitute him for a player to control the ball, then substitute him for a player to pass the f*cking ball?

You have a very limited view on players, maybe it's down to watching Cattermole so long he's clouded your judgement.
I'm saying they play different roles within a team, I'm sure you can understand that. Would you buy Kevin Nolan to play a defensive role? A simple yes or no will suffice don't waffle on.

The rest is just waffle to cover your pathetic question.
 
I suppose it all depends on how you'd prefer us to play. Are you saying Nolan and Adam can't defend at all, or Cattermole can't attack at all?
As a professional who trained every day i'd be absolutely f*cking gutted to be pigeon holed into such a limited role. A professional sportsman who is not only limited to a certain position, but is limited to a certain derivative of that position in a very specific style of that position.
What next, a player to receive the ball, substitute him for a player to control the ball, then substitute him for a player to pass the f*cking ball?

You have a very limited view on players, maybe it's down to watching Cattermole so long he's clouded your judgement.
It may also be due to the game tactically changing over the years and players defining their positions more clearly. Football's evolved.
 
Surely he was talking about about defensive side of things though, which given his formation, some of their history and the guidlines they were given to encourage them coming forward from the touchline was perfectly understandable how we caved in against a decent Everton whom we gave unlimited chances too. If he can't get a tune from the attacking players and thinks Kevin Nolan till January will address this, then his reputation about getting the best out of players is bullshit (it is really, as it's about getting the best out of limited ways and attributes in the main).

And how will Nolan be 'quick' enough, he's never had any legs to be quick enough, especially the last few years when he's been even less mobile. He is 100% reliant on a target man playing him in, we'd end up wasting a wage on him and games when we don't have the time.

West Hams form almost entirely collapsed the moment Carroll and Nolan especially were reintroduced. They'd had a lot of praise earlier in the season for the football they were playing largely due to the pace up front and the creativity behind them. Sam quickly reverted back to old ways and the stagnant play not suprisingly returned instantly. We're not talking just results, we're talking the football they were playing so I'm unsure why you're mentioning Song's supposed attitude.

I do not want Nolan...
 
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