keep o'shea on the bench


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The op's an utter balloon but wasn't it O'Shea who cried to Maggie when that big meany Di Canio took away they're ketchup and worked them hard in training?
And headed a players committee to complain to dick about having a go at PVA in training for walking on the training pitch with headphones on(according to a poster earlier)
 
we need to progress away from the rotten core

The op's an utter balloon but wasn't it O'Shea who cried to Maggie when that big meany Di Canio took away they're ketchup and worked them hard in training?

Have a listen to yourself - it makes no sense at all. Do you think if they said to Ellis via Byrne, "That nasty Mr Canio is making us train too hard, and we don't like it?" "He's expecting us to be professional and we don't want to be?" Does anyone think that Short would have listened to them for a second. There is no evidence at all that training hard was an issue - feedback from pre-season was positive. Yet that tired line comes out again and again.

JoS and Wes went on behalf of the squad because they were the senior players. They'd worked under the best (SAF) and knew what decent management looked like. That makes them the sensible choice to represent the dressing rooms view. It doesn't make either of them ringleaders. Who else could go? Catts? Would you send him on a diplomatic mission?!! And he'd been so isolated by pdc it would seemed like sour grapes from him.

It seems the entire dressing room was against pdc. Example: Giacc spoke against him. Giacc was a fellow countryman, whom pdc himself had brought in short weeks ago! Even Colback did. Jack Colback! The little guy who quietly got on with everything every manager asked of him. Two of the last players that you'd expect to turn on a boss so quickly.

And the account that came out was that John and Wes were told by Byrne not to worry about it, because the matter was already in hand. Already in hand. Of course it was. One point from 15. The players representations didn't get pdc the boot. They just confirmed what the club could see already. (1) He was a mad egotist who knew didley-squat about man-management. (2) He wasn't producing either results or performances on the pitch.

Has everybody forgotten PDC's constant bigging up of JoS? His captain. How he had him sat next to him when he did press conferences? How he talked about him being a winner, how he'd 'been there' and 'done it' with Man Utd.

So who was Pdc's 'rotten core'? Who knows, but names in the frame included Titus Bramble and Matt Killgallon, but they were both out of contract so they were just not offered new ones. Bramble's history of enjoying night life is well documented. He was critical of pdc in interviews when he left.

Obviously and indisputably, Bardsley and Cattermole - that's why pdc tried to get rid.


JoS & DA

JoS has been on the bench, two matches running, despite the first one being so poor at the back. Now that does say to me something is not right.

And Dick's comments in a recent interview about bringing players in having the effect of helping others out the door, when it becomes clear that they'll not get a game. Maybe Dick wants to move JoS on, either he just thinks he's no longer as good as he was, or he wants to bring another CB in, but needs to sacrifice O'Shea to free up the wages to do it.

But it won't be because he thinks O'Shea is rotten in any sense. His professionalism has never been in doubt.
 
O'Shea is the most professional footballer I know. Disgraceful that you are calling him part of a rotten core. I admire O'Shea for what he's achieved in the game and what he's done for us while he's been here, our best defender since he signed. Reliable and always gives 100%. A class act.

Fuck off.
Yeah great, his negative influence has worked wonders.
 
O'Shea is the most professional footballer I know. Disgraceful that you are calling him part of a rotten core. I admire O'Shea for what he's achieved in the game and what he's done for us while he's been here, our best defender since he signed. Reliable and always gives 100%. A class act.

Fuck off.
Reliable? As reliable to make a costly mistake as Nyron was. That's all you could depend on him for.
 
Feel very sorry for O'Shea, been told he's surplus to requirements in a team that has conceded 7 goals in two games to Leicester and Norwich, clearly he is not the problem, he may not be the solution either, but he's a good organiser and superb captain.
Where was it quoted O'Shea is surplus to requirements.
 
We need Jos and Brown back immediately - they know each others game inside out and aren't much slower than Coates and Kaboul based on what we have seen so far
 
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