Just watched the Noble foul again


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Most refs go out week in week out give the best they can under extermly difficult circumstances.players cheating,managers sending their players to make refs job as hard as possible.

They simply just give what their see with one look and spilt second to decide honestly under intense pressure

And for doing that get called pricks,cheats etc by ignorant no marks,that is something I will never get my head round.

Guess that is the world of football players allowed to cheat,refs not allowed mistakes
Of course they can make mistakes. However when they are CONSISTENTLY 'making mistakes' week in week out against the same team then their judgement will rightly get called into question.

What I can't get my head around is people like you bending over backwards to defend their every move. What do you get out of it?
 
Do you really think how well we do depends on which ref we have?

I could not give two fucks who refs our games,what bothers me is the f***ing well paid players getting their fingers out and performing.
well I give a fuck when they should have been playing against the same amount of men
 
Most refs go out week in week out give the best they can under extermly difficult circumstances.players cheating,managers sending their players to make refs job as hard as possible.

They simply just give what their see with one look and spilt second to decide honestly under intense pressure

And for doing that get called pricks,cheats etc by ignorant no marks,that is something I will never get my head round.

Guess that is the world of football players allowed to cheat,refs not allowed mistakes

i have defended many decisions on here and try not to view through my red and white specs, also stated many times how ref's have to make a choice without the benefit of replays...in a split second he has to decide if there was intent, an actual foul or if a player dived.
the simple fact of THAT decision with noble was that it was completely blatant, even if he did not see noble jump into borini then the fact that he had his arms up is as near to a red as you will see...terrible, terrible decision had we gone on to win or lose.
also, sure we had one of our lads cut down by a player whose momentum took him right through our lad and not even a free kick given but lens does much the same and got a yellow...if these guys want to be known as professionals then they need to get together and try to be more consistent across the board and a foul, is a foul, is a foul whoever is playing.
 
well I give a fuck when they should have been playing against the same amount of men

More of a general point mate,don't think anyone will disagree Noble should have sent off in that particular game.

But IMO,we are bottom of the league because of shit performances and whoever refs our next few games makes no difference to me whatsoever.

I will be looking at who is our new manager is who he plays what formation etc,does not concern me who is the ref in our next games not at all.

i have defended many decisions on here and try not to view through my red and white specs, also stated many times how ref's have to make a choice without the benefit of replays...in a split second he has to decide if there was intent, an actual foul or if a player dived.
the simple fact of THAT decision with noble was that it was completely blatant, even if he did not see noble jump into borini then the fact that he had his arms up is as near to a red as you will see...terrible, terrible decision had we gone on to win or lose.
also, sure we had one of our lads cut down by a player whose momentum took him right through our lad and not even a free kick given but lens does much the same and got a yellow...if these guys want to be known as professionals then they need to get together and try to be more consistent across the board and a foul, is a foul, is a foul whoever is playing.

Bottom line mate if ref seen it again would send it off,but perception and split second to decide does make all the difference,that is why so many mistakes do and will continue to happen

It was a really poor decision mate we all know that.
 
More of a general point mate,don't think anyone will disagree Noble should have sent off in that particular game.

But IMO,we are bottom of the league because of shit performances and whoever refs our next few games makes no difference to me whatsoever.

I will be looking at who is our new manager is who he plays what formation etc,does not concern me who is the ref in our next games not at all.
What Swarbrick did or didn't do is inexcusable, he saw it he gave us a free kick. I'd love to see what his excuse his for not yellow carding him. You never know, since Noble seems to think it was within the laws of the game he will smash someones jaw next time
This joker has possible denied us 4 points by making clangers in two games. That 4 points would make all of the difference to this poor team
 
Compare that tackle to Sess accidentally putting his foot on someone's toe for a straight red at Villa a few seasons back. Baffling.
 
More of a general point mate,don't think anyone will disagree Noble should have sent off in that particular game.

But IMO,we are bottom of the league because of shit performances and whoever refs our next few games makes no difference to me whatsoever.

I will be looking at who is our new manager is who he plays what formation etc,does not concern me who is the ref in our next games not at all.



Bottom line mate if ref seen it again would send it off,but perception and split second to decide does make all the difference,that is why so many mistakes do and will continue to happen

It was a really poor decision mate we all know that.

aye fair enough...it is just starting to annoy me lately when all 50/50's go against us and then you see something like that.
watched a few games over the weekend and there was also some very good ref's on show, i just think it is time we got one of them ;)
 
Of course they can make mistakes. However when they are CONSISTENTLY 'making mistakes' week in week out against the same team then their judgement will rightly get called into question.

What I can't get my head around is people like you bending over backwards to defend their every move. What do you get out of it?

I basically think it's unfair and unjustified simple as that.

I have played and watched football all my life and still play over 40s and of course on the field I shout at the ref in the heat of the moment as much as the next bloke.

However afterwards I have the common sense to realise he is just doing his best and giving what he sees.

The Chelsea manager and supporters currently think their getting all the bad decisions at the moment,no doubt other fans do,these mistakes are inevitable under the circumstances,surely you don't think all refs just pick on just Sunderland or do you?

The reason I defend them is IMO out of 23 people on the field they are the most honest out of the lot,yet ironically they are the ones that get called cheats,while fans like yourself on the face of it,seem to accept ok for players and managers to cheat,but not for refs to make honest mistakes,and seem to forget the decisions that do go our way

aye fair enough...it is just starting to annoy me lately when all 50/50's go against us and then you see something like that.
watched a few games over the weekend and there was also some very good ref's on show, i just think it is time we got one of them ;)

I honestly just think too difficult for refs in today's high paced game,their need help,technology is the only answer.
 
Most refs go out week in week out give the best they can under extermly difficult circumstances.players cheating,managers sending their players to make refs job as hard as possible.

They simply just give what their see with one look and spilt second to decide honestly under intense pressure

And for doing that get called pricks,cheats etc by ignorant no marks,that is something I will never get my head round.

Guess that is the world of football players allowed to cheat,refs not allowed mistakes

Premier League football is a multi-billion pound industry and clubs have many tens of millions pounds to lose if they go down. A single point can mean the difference between going down and staying up so it's not really good enough to just say that they made a mistake.

Look at our games so far this season and you will see that it happens far too often to us and probably other teams like us who are not seen as important enough for big refereeing decisions to even be analysed on motd.

I agree the refs have a difficult job but they are paid well to do it in this league and shouldn't be making some of the mistakes that we've seen recently. If this is too hard for them then bring in technology to assist them, something needs to be done to level out the playing field.
 
Most refs go out week in week out give the best they can under extermly difficult circumstances.players cheating,managers sending their players to make refs job as hard as possible.

They simply just give what their see with one look and spilt second to decide honestly under intense pressure

And for doing that get called pricks,cheats etc by ignorant no marks,that is something I will never get my head round.

Guess that is the world of football players allowed to cheat,refs not allowed mistakes

Nobody is saying they wont make mistakes, of course they will and I personally think the linesman have the hardest job in training the right eyeball to be with one player whilst the left with the player on the ball.

I have always said that authorities do not help the officials by staying quiet. Officials need to be backed. This could be done.

It is like a dictatorship at present with the viewer being told to shut up and not raise concerns as they know best.

Sepp Blatter springs to mind knowing best, as does numerous others.

re Saturdays elbow, it could be said that from the refs view point he saw a coming together. he did not see the elbow.

authorities can then view and say weve viewed it and it is a yellow card so no further action or its a red.

Things cannot be allowed to go on as they are.

Sometimes you would help your own cause and say yep in my view the ref got it wrong, then people would know you have a balanced perspective, but at the moment you are like the authorities and argueing for one cause
 
What Swarbrick did or didn't do is inexcusable, he saw it he gave us a free kick. I'd love to see what his excuse his for not yellow carding him. You never know, since Noble seems to think it was within the laws of the game he will smash someones jaw next time
This joker has possible denied us 4 points by making clangers in two games. That 4 points would make all of the difference to this poor team

It is clear as day what excuse he would have,from his one look his perception was that it did not look as bad as it clearly does on the replay.

Like I said really bad decision but only sensible reason for his mistake.

Happens all the time people get sent off for lesser fouls, and a lot worse fouls stay on the field,reason a refs perception from his one look.

It is not really a question of how bad a foul is,more of a question of how bad a foul looks from a refs one look,as that is all a ref has to go off.

However in this case of course you right really bad mistake from the ref.

Premier League football is a multi-billion pound industry and clubs have many tens of millions pounds to lose if they go down. A single point can mean the difference between going down and staying up so it's not really good enough to just say that they made a mistake.

Look at our games so far this season and you will see that it happens far too often to us and probably other teams like us who are not seen as important enough for big refereeing decisions to even be analysed on motd.

I agree the refs have a difficult job but they are paid well to do it in this league and shouldn't be making some of the mistakes that we've seen recently. If this is too hard for them then bring in technology to assist them, something needs to be done to level out the playing field.

It is too hard for them mate,that is clear as day to me and I believe evidence proves that week in week out,so yeah agree totally technology needs to be brought in to assit them.

I just don't understand why people can't see that when the evidence is staring them in the face
 
It is clear as day what excuse he would have,from his one look his perception was that it did not look as bad as it clearly does on the replay.

Like I said really bad decision but only sensible reason for his mistake.

Happens all the time people get sent off for lesser fouls, and a lot worse fouls stay on the field,reason a refs perception from his one look.

It is not really a question of how bad a foul is,more of a question of how bad a foul looks from a refs one look,as that is all a ref has to go off.

However in this case of course you right really bad mistake from the ref.



It is too hard for them mate,that is clear as day to me and I believe evidence proves that week in week out,so yeah agree totally technology needs to be brought in to assit them.

I take it back
 
Nobody is saying they wont make mistakes, of course they will and I personally think the linesman have the hardest job in training the right eyeball to be with one player whilst the left with the player on the ball.

I have always said that authorities do not help the officials by staying quiet. Officials need to be backed. This could be done.

It is like a dictatorship at present with the viewer being told to shut up and not raise concerns as they know best.

Sepp Blatter springs to mind knowing best, as does numerous others.

re Saturdays elbow, it could be said that from the refs view point he saw a coming together. he did not see the elbow.

authorities can then view and say weve viewed it and it is a yellow card so no further action or its a red.

Things cannot be allowed to go on as they are.

Sometimes you would help your own cause and say yep in my view the ref got it wrong, then people would know you have a balanced perspective, but at the moment you are like the authorities and argueing for one cause

Agree with most of that mate,I agree totally refs get it wrong all the time,because simply too difficult and need help
 
It is clear as day what excuse he would have,from his one look his perception was that it did not look as bad as it clearly does on the replay.

Like I said really bad decision but only sensible reason for his mistake.

Happens all the time people get sent off for lesser fouls, and a lot worse fouls stay on the field,reason a refs perception from his one look.

It is not really a question of how bad a foul is,more of a question of how bad a foul looks from a refs one look,as that is all a ref has to go off.

However in this case of course you right really bad mistake from the ref.


It did not have to look "that bad"
Cautions for unsporting behaviour

1) commits in a reckless manner one of the seven offences that incur a direct free kick • - Noble definitely did this, and if Swarbrick hasn't seen that whilst blowing for a free kick then he shouldn't be reffing. He was in a good position to see it, however Lets say we let Swarbrick off with that
2) commits a foul for the tactical purpose of interfering with or breaking up a promising attack- Oh dear, nailed to the mast
 
Agree with most of that mate,I agree totally refs get it wrong all the time,because simply too difficult and need help
The thing is, it's the same referees getting decisions 'wrong' AGAINST SAFC all of the time.
It's not just that they're missing things - they're missing things in the SAME direction.
Is it any wonder people are questioning their honesty?
 
It did not have to look "that bad"
Cautions for unsporting behaviour

1) commits in a reckless manner one of the seven offences that incur a direct free kick • - Noble definitely did this, and if Swarbrick hasn't seen that whilst blowing for a free kick then he shouldn't be reffing. He was in a good position to see it, however Lets say we let Swarbrick off with that
2) commits a foul for the tactical purpose of interfering with or breaking up a promising attack- Oh dear, nailed to the mast

Yeah agree mate,I believe I already said it was a really bad mistake,and he should be marked down for it.

You said you would like to know what his excuse was for not giving it,I just said his excuse would be pretty obvious only thing it could of been,although of the evidence you have provide yes flimsily excuse.

He must of thought a accidental coming together which of course he would be clearly wrong.
 
Yeah agree I have already said that.
I don't read the majority of your posts, they're all basically the same so I assumed you'd spent the whole thread defending the referee, so apologies if I saw something that wasn't there, or indeed, completely and wilfully ignored something that was.
 
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