Jumper on the bridge


GP's surgery, hospital, etc
We’ll assume that this is a rational act (which it’s not). If you’re a rational person you’re likely to do some research before seeking help. You’d know that GPs are currently struggling massively and will likely as a first point of call refer you to IAPT. Target times for a referral to them is supposed to be 6 weeks however, this is more like 12 weeks at the moment. So now, thinking rationally, if you feel desperate and need help as soon as possible, do you wait for your IAPT referral or do something desperate?

You could always take a chance with a local crisis team. However the threshold for them is now that high, that unless you’re in the process of doing something, they’ll likely get you to speak to the GP.

So, again, rationally how would you expect someone to try and get access to help quicker?
 
What happens to someone who gets talked down? Do the police arrest them? Take them to hospital for a psychological review?
The police can put them under a section 136 which detains them for an amount of time whereby they can be spoken to by a professional and accessed whether a further section is required . The police also have a mental health nurse who works with them and can attend situations or speak to the patient very quickly and give an assessment/help/ referrals etc
 
My friend shaun jumped, really nice bloke, salt of the earth,he was always a deep type of person, internalised everything, didn't tell anyone, just drove to the A19 bridge, parked, and vaulted over the railings, people go into dark places and there's no one to talk to, some people show no indication of what's to come, smiling and normal on the morning of the act, very sad when I hear of people jumping.
 
The police can put them under a section 136 which detains them for an amount of time whereby they can be spoken to by a professional and accessed whether a further section is required . The police also have a mental health nurse who works with them and can attend situations or speak to the patient very quickly and give an assessment/help/ referrals etc
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Glad they are down, hopefully a cry for help and they get it, grew up with a lad who went over a few years ago, he never sat to be spoken down, just over, devastating for the family's who they leave behind, how do you get over it
 
Spotted a young lad sat on the ledge a few weeks ago in the middle of the afternoon. He didn’t look in distress or anything, looked like he was just taking 5 minutes out rather than looking to jump. Whilst I was on the blower to 999, he bolted back over the railings and jogged off into town.
 
We’ll assume that this is a rational act (which it’s not). If you’re a rational person you’re likely to do some research before seeking help. You’d know that GPs are currently struggling massively and will likely as a first point of call refer you to IAPT. Target times for a referral to them is supposed to be 6 weeks however, this is more like 12 weeks at the moment. So now, thinking rationally, if you feel desperate and need help as soon as possible, do you wait for your IAPT referral or do something desperate?

You could always take a chance with a local crisis team. However the threshold for them is now that high, that unless you’re in the process of doing something, they’ll likely get you to speak to the GP.

So, again, rationally how would you expect someone to try and get access to help quicker?
All of that being the case, climbing up on a bridge is not a rational choice.
 
My friend shaun jumped, really nice bloke, salt of the earth,he was always a deep type of person, internalised everything, didn't tell anyone, just drove to the A19 bridge, parked, and vaulted over the railings, people go into dark places and there's no one to talk to, some people show no indication of what's to come, smiling and normal on the morning of the act, very sad when I hear of people jumping.
People who have resolved to end it all can often be calm and happy in their final hours because that internal torture has been resolved for them.
There we go then. That’s why people do it. They aren’t acting rationally.
I was answering the point made which was that it's a rational choice. The point I was originally making is that for some it's a very deliberate choice to get some attention.
 
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My friend shaun jumped, really nice bloke, salt of the earth,he was always a deep type of person, internalised everything, didn't tell anyone, just drove to the A19 bridge, parked, and vaulted over the railings, people go into dark places and there's no one to talk to, some people show no indication of what's to come, smiling and normal on the morning of the act, very sad when I hear of people jumping.
So sorry to hear that about your friend Jon 😪. I'm going to be 💯 honest when I say that the thought has crossed my mind over the years but I've managed to pull myself out of the hole and choose to keep living as long as I can for my son.
 
Glad they are down, hopefully a cry for help and they get it, grew up with a lad who went over a few years ago, he never sat to be spoken down, just over, devastating for the family's who they leave behind, how do you get over it
It's the questions they leave unanswered, what was the cause, what made the place they were in so dark that the only option they could see was to do something so final.
So sorry to hear that about your friend Jon 😪. I'm going to be 💯 honest when I say that the thought has crossed my mind over the years but I've managed to pull myself out of the hole and choose to keep living as long as I can for my son.
Banish those dark thoughts mate, don't ever let them gain a foothold, always think of your son, he is going to do you proud, your going to look back on bad times and smile, because you weathered them and saw the rainbow and clear skies at the end of the storm 👍
 
So sorry to hear that about your friend Jon 😪. I'm going to be 💯 honest when I say that the thought has crossed my mind over the years but I've managed to pull myself out of the hole and choose to keep living as long as I can for my son.

Equal parts good and awful to hear... Good that you can make that choice to put the bairn first though. If you ever need a friendly ear feel free to get in touch 👍
 

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