John O'Shea


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Nothing to do with player power.do you realy think pva would still be playing if players had power.
They'd have no choice he's the only f***ing left back we have, taking into consideration Jones is almost as bad at right back, would it benefit us playing him on the left and bringing his understudy to fill the right back slot?
 
But if players had power then it wouldn't f***ing matter if he was the only left back.
 
Rotating our centre backs is like putting the recycling wheelie bin out one week and the ordinary rubbish the week after.

Any combination of rubbish will still result in rubbish.
 
If rumours are true about him leading a player revolt etc he wants beating with a sock of his own shit. Odiouscunt!!

He'd be the one player in the squad I'd expect it least of. He's a top professional and doesn't have the talent to have been at Manchester United for over 10 years without being so.
 
This thread has me chuckling.....im a world beater on a level with jos.
I am cumbersome yet i can organise.
Im good in the air and can hold an opponent....if its within 3 yards.
My positional play is spot on.....if my position happens to be within 5yds of where im stood.
I can shout and point just aswell and last but not least i played for a big club.
 
This thread has me chuckling.....im a world beater on a level with jos.
I am cumbersome yet i can organise.
Im good in the air and can hold an opponent....if its within 3 yards.
My positional play is spot on.....if my position happens to be within 5yds of where im stood.
I can shout and point just aswell and last but not least i played for a big club.

You missed the ability to pick a pass with the vision of a co-joined Beckenbauer and Moore mate.
 
This thread has me chuckling.....im a world beater on a level with jos.
I am cumbersome yet i can organise.
Im good in the air and can hold an opponent....if its within 3 yards.
My positional play is spot on.....if my position happens to be within 5yds of where im stood.
I can shout and point just aswell and last but not least i played for a big club.
Is the answer 'Who is Paul Butler?'
 
Aye well, it's all about opinions I suppose. I'd rather keep the back two pairing together and sort out the issue with the fullbacks.

Carry on.

Part of the issue with PVA and Jones is that they don't have anyone at centre half to help them out like O'Shea does organising the defence.
 
Part of the issue with PVA and Jones is that they don't have anyone at centre half to help them out like O'Shea does organising the defence.

PVA had the same problem, and one I was whinging about at length, as far back as the start of February last year. That was under Poyet's defensive system.

As a rule I don't have an issue with O'Shea. My real issue, at the moment, is that I think barring one or two games last season he's been on the same downward slope as Brown. I'd rather stick with the defensive pairing we have at the minute. It mightn't work, but the fact is we just don't know how much of it is simply poor centreback performances, or whether it is the severe lack of support they've had from both fullbacks and defensive midfield.
You could argue that maybe change a centreback and give the fullbacks one more chance, or change the fullbacks and give the centrebacks one more chance - but don't change both because then you don't identify the root of the problem. And from what I've seen - and this is the main thrust of my argument - PVA is the main culprit at the moment.

All my opinion, of course.;)
 
I look forward to him being caught under the ball and hauling back the attacker in the box.
The centrebacks aren't the problem.

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happy(ish) with any combination of the CB's. it's PVA that's the problem. Kaboul literally has no idea if he's playing CB or LB and gets dragged all over the place trying to cover PVA who's about 20 f***ing yards out of position all the time. hopefully JOS can reign the fucker in as he does seem much more vocal

as Gary Neville put it on MNF 2-4-4 isn't going to catch on
 
PVA had the same problem, and one I was whinging about at length, as far back as the start of February last year. That was under Poyet's defensive system.

As a rule I don't have an issue with O'Shea. My real issue, at the moment, is that I think barring one or two games last season he's been on the same downward slope as Brown. I'd rather stick with the defensive pairing we have at the minute. It mightn't work, but the fact is we just don't know how much of it is simply poor centreback performances, or whether it is the severe lack of support they've had from both fullbacks and defensive midfield.
You could argue that maybe change a centreback and give the fullbacks one more chance, or change the fullbacks and give the centrebacks one more chance - but don't change both because then you don't identify the root of the problem. And from what I've seen - and this is the main thrust of my argument - PVA is the main culprit at the moment.

All my opinion, of course.;)

Mine too although I'd lump Cattermole in there as well as he's failing to provide adequate cover for the centre backs when they're dragged out wide. (I'm assuming this is the way the system is supposed to work :))

Oh, Jones is crap anarl.
 
Mine too although I'd lump Cattermole in there as well as he's failing to provide adequate cover for the centre backs when they're dragged out wide. (I'm assuming this is the way the system is supposed to work :))

Oh, Jones is crap anarl.

Aye, when I say "PVA", I include Jones by proxy but to a slightly lesser extent. :lol:
And aye, I'd drop Catts as soon as we get another midfielder in, have M'Vila in that role. Again, got nothing against the lad, he's had some cracking performances but fact is his head's not in the game at all this season.
 
Can't see JOS falling out with DA for any professionalism issue. Only thing that I can think of is if DA wants to move him out in order to bring someone else in. He'd need to do this wages-wise. So this could be a 'you may as well move cos I'm not to play you' benching.

Kaboules's displays may give him 2nd thoughts.
 
Aye, when I say "PVA", I include Jones by proxy but to a slightly lesser extent. :lol:
And aye, I'd drop Catts as soon as we get another midfielder in, have M'Vila in that role. Again, got nothing against the lad, he's had some cracking performances but fact is his head's not in the game at all this season.

He'll be back to his old self just as soon as O'Shea is reinstated. ;) :)
 
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