Job Offer - Rolling Contract Work versus Current Permanent Job


I’ve always chased the money, hasn’t always work out best but never mind.
Ho with your gut, don’t burn bridges and think of yourself and your family
Good luck

this a million times over.

always remember a permanent contract is only as permanent as a company wants it to be.

always do what’s best for you and your family because a company will 99.9% of the time what is best for their business.
 
Been doing contract work for 6 years now. I'd be gutted if I had to go back to a perm job and that's nowt to do with money.

Just avoiding the bullshit is reason enough.

Yes, one of the things I liked about being a contractor was that you avoided most of the internal meetings, HR processes and office politics. You were just paid to do a job. Trouble is that when budgets get squeezed contractors are usually the first to go as they are cheaper to get rid of.
 
Are you the Civil Servant who was having bother with their line manager ?

Difficult to advise without knowing personal circumstances etc, but would a transfer to another Gov Department not be a possibility ? Still giving you long term security and as you say the CS are generally ok with reasonable adjustments etc.
 
Forget your offer job for now , pretend your unemployed and go online and see if you can find ither vacancies that you would go for, if there's plenty of vacancies in your field then go for the new job and if it doesn't work out you know there are plenty of other vacancies available , however if there are only 1 or 2 vacancies in your field stay put..better the devil you know.
 
Here is my take.
We don’t really know the ins and outs from the last situation only your side of the story.
All of your medical issues are out in the open and it sounds like that they are making reasonable adjustments which is decent.
The Job is permanent.

As the new one is rolling it is very easy to get rid of you. One mistake or they don’t like you you’re out.
Can you take this stress?

Personally as you are discovering yourself and your traits and how you function I’d stay as you are until you know fully your working strengths and development areas and your resilience. When you get that bang on then you maybe ready.

Moving jobs is incredibly stressful to someone without disabilities and could you cope?

Most people are stressed, have conflict, can’t be doing with work but persevere through it.

Choice is yours but I’d stay out at the moment.

This fits in with my current thought process to be honest.

I'd love to walk at the moment as the difficulties with my line manager would be done with. Five days ago and post interview, I was up for it.

However, I am trying to sort myself out at the moment and that has to take priority. And my current job is taking me seriously now.

I would be walking into a less secure situation for sure and when it comes down to it, that is the clincher given my upcoming diagnoses. Both are mild, but enough to cause problems.

Also, what happens if issues are apparent with me after starting. It would probably be bye bye.

During previous periods of unemployment, job hunting has been a pit of a task let's say.

If I was currently unemployed or the new role was permanent, then taking it would be a no brainer. However, it is temporary, agency and rolling, and given my recent mental health issues is too much of a risk.

One thing that has come of this is the confidence boost, knowing even with my issues I can still do a good interview. So that has made me feel much better.

But at this stage, I will have to knock this on the head as just too risky right now.
 
The face they've offered you the job so soon after interview screams that they're currently in way over their head and are throwing bodies at it in an attempt to 'calm the storm'.

Mind, I could be completely wrong but that's my initial thought.
 
Been doing contract work for 6 years now. I'd be gutted if I had to go back to a perm job and that's nowt to do with money.

Just avoiding the bullshit is reason enough.

I hear you loud and clear. It does depend on your skills and what you have to offer as to whether this is viable, however. A qualified welder can earn crazy money with offshore work, as an example and go elsewhere easily if the situation is rubbish.

My skills set is one where the good offers are few and far between, so if this were to go tits up then it might be a while before something else comes along.

Thus with my recent mental health issues and likelihood being high that am going to be diagnosed with mild AD-HD and mild Asperger's, this isn't a time for me to play fast and loose.

I like your thought process, but now is not a time for me to play too clever with my employment.
 
your main issue at your current employer is your line manager whats not to say the same wont happen in the new role. Have you asked yourself why the new job pays so much more? Will it be more demanding stressful? You are having your ego stroked a bit at the minute(and none of us mind that) try to take a more detached view

The possible reason why the new job pays more is because since Brexit employers are having to offer higher wages to attract staff. Existing employers will count on you not wanting to risk taking on a new job so they pay you as little as they can.
 
The face they've offered you the job so soon after interview screams that they're currently in way over their head and are throwing bodies at it in an attempt to 'calm the storm'.

Mind, I could be completely wrong but that's my initial thought.

They're wanting to rush it through, hence one reason I delayed using my references to think about it. I began to feel rushed TBH. The actual company itself is reputable, but the temporary / agency element is the big problem.

As said above, I'd jump if this was permanent but with my recent mental health issues, I can't really take the risk.
 
Is it outside or inside IR35 and how you being paid? As may not work out as more than current salary if its inside and you paying employers side as well. I contract as well but think would be wanting more than 30% of permie rate as need to account for times changing jobs when no work and saving up for those times etc etc.

One advantage I have with contracting via LTD company is can manage my taxed income and am almost building a pension pot in the business for later, but I am luck I dont have to take all the money out so is also down to your lifestyle needs.

Tend to find some people are fine with 6 month type contracts and living with that element of insecurity, but knowing other things will come up (I in that mindset) and those that cant live with that and would be much better staying in permie work.

Contractor Calculator - Your Expert Guide to Contracting. For UK Contractors, Freelancers, and Consultants might help on the true financed side as well.
 
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This fits in with my current thought process to be honest.

I'd love to walk at the moment as the difficulties with my line manager would be done with. Five days ago and post interview, I was up for it.

However, I am trying to sort myself out at the moment and that has to take priority. And my current job is taking me seriously now.

I would be walking into a less secure situation for sure and when it comes down to it, that is the clincher given my upcoming diagnoses. Both are mild, but enough to cause problems.

Also, what happens if issues are apparent with me after starting. It would probably be bye bye.

During previous periods of unemployment, job hunting has been a pit of a task let's say.

If I was currently unemployed or the new role was permanent, then taking it would be a no brainer. However, it is temporary, agency and rolling, and given my recent mental health issues is too much of a risk.

One thing that has come of this is the confidence boost, knowing even with my issues I can still do a good interview. So that has made me feel much better.

But at this stage, I will have to knock this on the head as just too risky right now.
I'd agree with your thought process and decision there mate.
You've a lot moving about in your own situation just now, so a bit of stability in one area (you know you'll be in a job) is one less thing to worry about.
Good luck and hope it works out for you.
 
I hear you loud and clear. It does depend on your skills and what you have to offer as to whether this is viable, however. A qualified welder can earn crazy money with offshore work, as an example and go elsewhere easily if the situation is rubbish.

My skills set is one where the good offers are few and far between, so if this were to go tits up then it might be a while before something else comes along.

Thus with my recent mental health issues and likelihood being high that am going to be diagnosed with mild AD-HD and mild Asperger's, this isn't a time for me to play fast and loose.

I like your thought process, but now is not a time for me to play too clever with my employment.
I’d say that, for you, you’re probably calling it right.

Everyone is different, I worked for myself on very short-term contracts, literally day-to-day, week-to-week in some situations but I thrived on that at the time.

Looking back, having now worked permy for a few years, I still have no regrets doing the freelance stuff when I did, then moving to the permy roles when I did. Both were right for me at the time I chose them.

The adrenaline of working for yourself / through agencies often masks the stress you’re also experiencing.
 
I hear you loud and clear. It does depend on your skills and what you have to offer as to whether this is viable, however. A qualified welder can earn crazy money with offshore work, as an example and go elsewhere easily if the situation is rubbish.

My skills set is one where the good offers are few and far between, so if this were to go tits up then it might be a while before something else comes along.

Thus with my recent mental health issues and likelihood being high that am going to be diagnosed with mild AD-HD and mild Asperger's, this isn't a time for me to play fast and loose.

I like your thought process, but now is not a time for me to play too clever with my employment.
You know yourself and your situation better than anyone. Go with your gut. It's rarely wrong.

I'm lucky in that my industry is booming.
 
It can be liberating being contract with the right employer. CNE contactor not Engaged. Is a great way of taking a day off work short notice but it depends on the company if the treat contractors as agency workers they will try to give you hassle if they are professional they won't. The holy grail is 100% remote from a different country which is what i have. My contact with ?HR is to send them a bill every few months. However, as i said it depends on the company.
 
The great thing about contracting is you don't have to get involved in any company politics (eg. performance reviews) and can generally just crack on doing the actual job. I ended up contracting for around 8 years after I started somewhere for an initial 5 month project. The extra money went straight into a pension - best thing that happened to me money-wise and whilst I never felt fully part of the team in one sense it had it's advantage as I said. We're all different though, if the thought of finishing in 6 months without anything lined up fills you with dread then you probably have your answer. If the thought of staying where you are long term (and missing this opportunity) fills your with dread, you have your answer! :) I would say, don't stress too much on it - things will work out one way or another. Remember, there will be other jobs out there whatever you decide! Good luck.
 
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It can be liberating being contract with the right employer. CNE contactor not Engaged. Is a great way of taking a day off work short notice but it depends on the company if the treat contractors as agency workers they will try to give you hassle if they are professional they won't. The holy grail is 100% remote from a different country which is what i have. My contact with ?HR is to send them a bill every few months. However, as i said it depends on the company.

Very true. I've seen very different way of contractors being treated. I contracted at one major pharma company for 3 years where you were treated as an equal member of the team. The only way you knew someone wasn't an FTE was that you had a different coloured lanyard for your ID badge. I then went to another pharma were the contractors were crammed into a hot desk area, given the worst laptops and weren't allowed to do basic stuff like book a meeting room without authorisation. I walked out after the first month.
 
The great thing about contracting is you don't have to get involved in any company politics (eg. performance reviews) and can generally just crack on doing the actual job. I ended up contracting for around 8 years after I started somewhere for an initial 5 month project. The extra money went straight into a pension - best thing that happened to me money-wise and whilst I never felt fully part of the team in one sense it had it's advantage as I said. We're all different though, if the thought of finishing in 6 months without anything lined up fills you with dread then you probably have your answer. If the thought of staying where you are long term (and missing this opportunity) fills your with dread, you have your answer! :) I would say, don't stress too much on it - things will work out one way or another. Remember, there will be other jobs out there whatever you decide! Good luck.
Oh and don't get diagnosed with a chronic fatal disease. Go fuck it who needs a pension blow the extra cash on wine women and song. Get checked 10 years later only to find you have improved and wonder where is my pension. :)
 
One advantage I have with contracting via LTD company is can manage my taxed income and am almost building a pension pot in the business for later, but I am luck I dont have to take all the money out so is also down to your lifestyle needs.
Out of interest how does this work out when you need to take it out of the company, wouldn't you just end up getting nailed with the tax at that point?
 
Oh and don't get diagnosed with a chronic fatal disease. Go fuck it who needs a pension blow the extra cash on wine women and song. Get checked 10 years later only to find you have improved and wonder where is my pension. :)
Yeah but you had a great time and your kidneys will be due to pack in after those 10 years anyway!
 

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