Jamie Vardy


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I agreed with you all until the last sentence. Vardy is 29.5 so if he stays at Leicester his next move will more than likely be a step down.

It's not inconceivable to think that Leicester will be more successful than Arsenal over the next couple of years if he stays plus he knows that at Leicester he will be the main man and the team will be set up to play to his strengths and supply him with chances.

He could easily find himself on the bench at Arsenal , on the wing or they still pass the ball to death and negate his pace to a large extent.

It's not inconceivable, but it's much more likely that he'd win more trophies with Arsenal than with Leicester.
Since your League Cup win in 99/00 Arsenal have;
4 FA Cup wins (and 1 runner up)
2 Premier League titles and finished runner up 5 times.
Twice got to the League Cup final.
 
For Leicester to grow in the long term they need to move the likes of Vardy on – he’ll do another season – but after that, if he’s still your main man, you’ll be standing still – and ultimately backwards.

He won’t be happy on the bench at Leicester either. So get another 20 goals out of him and then move him on and sign somebody better.

Realistically, you’ve had your moment in sun – you won’t win the league again – but what would be massive for you would be to establish yourselves forever more as a top 6 team. Flirt with CL every year – qualify occasionally – and you’re winners. I don’t think you can expect more than that – but anything more is a nice bonus.

This season is massive for us, are we a top club or a flash in the pan?

The one thing that I've noticed is that we're still seen as a fairy tale and like we're Yeovil Town who won the league. Top players like Morata have dismissed us as an option straight the way as I suppose they don't want to sign a five year contract and end up at a club that finish mid table. If we're to get some credibility then we need to sustain our success. For that reason we need to keep hold of the likes of Vardy for a couple of years as we won't be able to buy any better.

It's not inconceivable, but it's much more likely that he'd win more trophies with Arsenal than with Leicester.
Since your League Cup win in 99/00 Arsenal have;
4 FA Cup wins (and 1 runner up)
2 Premier League titles and finished runner up 5 times.
Twice got to the League Cup final.

Obviously long term it's almost a certainty that Arsenal will be more successful than Leicester but I'm just saying that it's not inconceivable that Leicester have more success than Arsenal over the span of Jamie Vardy's career.

They've never won the Champions League and haven't won the PL in 12 years. Domestic cups aren't that great a triumph for the very best clubs. If we keep our best players then I think we're just as good as Arsenal are now.
 
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This season is massive for us, are we a top club or a flash in the pan?

The one thing that I've noticed is that we're still seen as a fairy tale and like we're Yeovil Town who won the league. Top players like Morata have dismissed us as an option straight the way as I suppose they don't want to sign a five year contract and end up at a club that finish mid table. If we're to get some credibility then we need to sustain our success. For that reason we need to keep hold of the likes of Vardy for a couple of years as we won't be able to buy any better.
Would love a team like Leicester to maintain last seasons success. 5/6 teams who were never going to be out of the top 5/6 have had their noses put out of joint which had me chuckling away all season. A fantastic achievement.
Can they do it again? Doubt it, but a top 6 would again be a massive season. As with Southampton, a bit of success gets the better players noticed and inevitably some will be off, but if the likes of Leicester are going to be paying £100k per week to players then good ones can replace them.
 
This season is massive for us, are we a top club or a flash in the pan?

The one thing that I've noticed is that we're still seen as a fairy tale and like we're Yeovil Town who won the league. Top players like Morata have dismissed us as an option straight the way as I suppose they don't want to sign a five year contract and end up at a club that finish mid table. If we're to get some credibility then we need to sustain our success. For that reason we need to keep hold of the likes of Vardy for a couple of years as we won't be able to buy any better.



Obviously long term it's almost a certainty that Arsenal will be more successful than Leicester but I'm just saying that it's not inconceivable that Leicester have more success than Arsenal over the span of Jamie Vardy's career.

They've never won the Champions League and haven't won the PL in 12 years. Domestic cups aren't that great a triumph for the very best clubs. If we keep our best players then I think we're just as good as Arsenal are now.

Good post. Has someone hacked your account or did you get laid last neet?

Vardys got summit like 3 seasons left at the very top at best. Leicester could quite easily match Arsenal trophywise in that period. If they offer him similar wages hed be best off staying with you lot. He'll get more game time which as a lad who came into it late will surely be more of a priority than someone who has been playing in the PL since they were 18 or so. He'll be the main man at Leicester unless he turns to shite whereas at Arsenal he'll just be another face in the squad photo and Wenger has to keep em all happyish.
 
Of course not but Leicester and Sunderland are at two different places right now and not comparable. Sunderland would be delighted with 12th next season but for us it would be an absolute failure and important momentum obliterated. Our ambitions of becoming a top club all but sunk as we nestle into the also rans position.

It's about walking before learning to run, Sunderland at some point need to have a boring mid table season and solidify it's status as a PL club rather than being in a relegation battle from Day 1.

If at the start of last season someone offered me 17pts less than Liverpool over the next 47 games I'd have taken it gladly.

Ok I would take it you wouldn't, let's see what it looks like next May
 
Good post. Has someone hacked your account or did you get laid last neet?

Vardys got summit like 3 seasons left at the very top at best. Leicester could quite easily match Arsenal trophywise in that period. If they offer him similar wages hed be best off staying with you lot. He'll get more game time which as a lad who came into it late will surely be more of a priority than someone who has been playing in the PL since they were 18 or so. He'll be the main man at Leicester unless he turns to shite whereas at Arsenal he'll just be another face in the squad photo and Wenger has to keep em all happyish.

Neither. :cry:
 
This season is massive for us, are we a top club or a flash in the pan?

The one thing that I've noticed is that we're still seen as a fairy tale and like we're Yeovil Town who won the league. Top players like Morata have dismissed us as an option straight the way as I suppose they don't want to sign a five year contract and end up at a club that finish mid table. If we're to get some credibility then we need to sustain our success. For that reason we need to keep hold of the likes of Vardy for a couple of years as we won't be able to buy any better.

It'll be a gamble, but I think you will. Vardy's not got many strings to his bow and now that teams know what to expect from you, they'll approach the games differently. >£20m for Vardy? I'd sell him and sell him quick if I were you. 30yr old, one trick pony*, especially when that trick relies on pace and energy?




*It's a bloody good trick mind.
 
Ok I would take it you wouldn't, let's see what it looks like next May

Well come next May I might take your hand off for it but at this moment in time I want us to get top four and sustain this. If we get mid table next season then we'll be no more likely to challenge the elite clubs in the future than any of the other clubs outside the "big six".
 
It'll be a gamble, but I think you will. Vardy's not got many strings to his bow and now that teams know what to expect from you, they'll approach the games differently. >£20m for Vardy? I'd sell him and sell him quick if I were you. 30yr old, one trick pony*, especially when that trick relies on pace and energy?




*It's a bloody good trick mind.

why? They will get nobody better for 20 million like, be pointless selling him.
 
Obviously long term it's almost a certainty that Arsenal will be more successful than Leicester but I'm just saying that it's not inconceivable that Leicester have more success than Arsenal over the span of Jamie Vardy's career.

They've never won the Champions League and haven't won the PL in 12 years. Domestic cups aren't that great a triumph for the very best clubs. If we keep our best players then I think we're just as good as Arsenal are now.

Jamie Vardy's top flight career is likely going to be another 2 seasons or so. I'd maintain that Arsenal are more likely than Leicester to win something in the next couple of years. I know the response will be "The league doesn't lie", but I don't think you're as good as Arsenal, (or Chelsea, or Man City, etc.). I think the league can lie, certainly did when we finished 5th as we certainly weren't the 5th best team in England, I think you've a few stand out players, but a lot of your team were playing above themselves and in a team that played down their failures and played to the strengths of Vardy, Mahrez and Kante (also worth noting that Kante's strength dovetailed nicely with the styles of the players around him).
 
Well come next May I might take your hand off for it but at this moment in time I want us to get top four and sustain this. If we get mid table next season then we'll be no more likely to challenge the elite clubs in the future than any of the other clubs outside the "big six".

I think it's an almighty ask for you to be top 4 with all the extra games and travelling that the CL brings.
If you manage it then it will be as big as winning it last season IMO given the context.

Be very interesting to see how it unfolds!

I hope you keep your best players as -

1) get sick of seeing the sky elite Hoover up talent
2) it was good to see the mound broken and I hope the trend continues - and one day includes us
 
It'll be a gamble, but I think you will. Vardy's not got many strings to his bow and now that teams know what to expect from you, they'll approach the games differently. >£20m for Vardy? I'd sell him and sell him quick if I were you. 30yr old, one trick pony*, especially when that trick relies on pace and energy?




*It's a bloody good trick mind.

We've been quoted £32m for Deeney who is 18 months younger than Vardy.

If we pay that for Deeney then we shouldn't be selling Vardy for £20m.

I think any club would take Vardy for that money as he'd almost guarantee you would stay up. 24 goals and 12 assists in the PL last season, if that's not worth £20m then what is?
 
why? They will get nobody better for 20 million like, be pointless selling him.
Well, a couple of reasons;

They honestly could sign a better striker than Jamie Vardy for c£20m, but it would be a gamble (they might not perform in the Premier League)
and because they could sell him for £20m, spend £15-£20m of their own and sign a £35-£40m striker.
 
Well, a couple of reasons;

They honestly could sign a better striker than Jamie Vardy for c£20m, but it would be a gamble (they might not perform in the Premier League)
and because they could sell him for £20m, spend £15-£20m of their own and sign a £35-£40m striker.

I really don't think they could, he is the perfect striker in the world for the way they play, be crazy to get rid.
 
We've been quoted £32m for Deeney who is 18 months younger than Vardy.

If we pay that for Deeney then we shouldn't be selling Vardy for £20m.

I think any club would take Vardy for that money as he'd almost guarantee you would stay up. 24 goals and 12 assists in the PL last season, if that's not worth £20m then what is?
No you absolutely shouldn't pay £32m for Deeney, I'm guessing that valuation is just to scare off suitors. Deeney isn't worth 1/2 that, even in this market. Put it this way, Mitrovic scored as many goals from open play as Troy Deeney and Newcastle signed him for £13m. The players are out there.

Vardy wouldn't get 24 goals and 12 assists at a club aiming to survive. He won't get 24 goals and 12 assists at a club aiming for the top half! He had an incredible Premier League season, but surely you can see it's aberrant, rather than the norm?
 
We've been quoted £32m for Deeney who is 18 months younger than Vardy.

If we pay that for Deeney then we shouldn't be selling Vardy for £20m.

I think any club would take Vardy for that money as he'd almost guarantee you would stay up. 24 goals and 12 assists in the PL last season, if that's not worth £20m then what is?
True but a get out fee won't go up unless 2 or more teams get involved. Hearing that kind of money for Deeney makes me physically ill.
 
Jamie Vardy's top flight career is likely going to be another 2 seasons or so. I'd maintain that Arsenal are more likely than Leicester to win something in the next couple of years. I know the response will be "The league doesn't lie", but I don't think you're as good as Arsenal, (or Chelsea, or Man City, etc.). I think the league can lie, certainly did when we finished 5th as we certainly weren't the 5th best team in England, I think you've a few stand out players, but a lot of your team were playing above themselves and in a team that played down their failures and played to the strengths of Vardy, Mahrez and Kante (also worth noting that Kante's strength dovetailed nicely with the styles of the players around him).

The league table isn't an accurate barometer of how strong a team is but the more evidence we have the more likely it is to be the case. I'm not saying Leicester are a better side than any of the "big six" but the more evidence we have the more you have to accept it as the mean. If Leicester won the title again next season then they would have to be considered the best team in the country or at the very least one of them. I say this without offering an opinion either way and I totally understand why people will question Leicester's credentials.

I don't think Leicester will be as successful as Arsenal over the next couple of years but I'm just saying it's far from inconceivable.

No you absolutely shouldn't pay £32m for Deeney, I'm guessing that valuation is just to scare off suitors. Deeney isn't worth 1/2 that, even in this market. Put it this way, Mitrovic scored as many goals from open play as Troy Deeney and Newcastle signed him for £13m. The players are out there.

Vardy wouldn't get 24 goals and 12 assists at a club aiming to survive. He won't get 24 goals and 12 assists at a club aiming for the top half! He had an incredible Premier League season, but surely you can see it's aberrant, rather than the norm?

I think i read he hit the woodwork more than any player in the PL last season so it might be his level. I missed 5 games home and away all season, Vardy despite his critics is as good a striker as anyone in the PL apart from Aguero. People like to have preconceptions of him because of the route he's taken and because he looks like a chav and not the most handsome but as a striker he's top quality.

I'm not saying he will hit 24 goals & 12 assists next season because if he could guarantee that he would be worth £80m.
 
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I really don't think they could, he is the perfect striker in the world for the way they play, be crazy to get rid.
But surely they're going to have to change the way they play next season?

Say they can pick up a younger version of him? Pacy, hard working, decent touch, instinctive finisher? You can definitely find replacements for that, and if you add some attributes that Vardy doesn't have you can alter game plans without altering personnel. The team you're facing sets up deep, no ambition to leave their half, Vardy's pace and endeavour is not useful, but Lukaku's size and power is. (I'm not saying they could get Lukaku).

Now that every man and his dog knows that Leicester are a counter-attack side, with a well drilled defense, the riposte is either to starve them of the ball completely to draw them out and wear them out, or sit deep and try to hit them on the break.
 
But surely they're going to have to change the way they play next season?

Say they can pick up a younger version of him? Pacy, hard working, decent touch, instinctive finisher? You can definitely find replacements for that, and if you add some attributes that Vardy doesn't have you can alter game plans without altering personnel. The team you're facing sets up deep, no ambition to leave their half, Vardy's pace and endeavour is not useful, but Lukaku's size and power is. (I'm not saying they could get Lukaku).

Now that every man and his dog knows that Leicester are a counter-attack side, with a well drilled defense, the riposte is either to starve them of the ball completely to draw them out and wear them out, or sit deep and try to hit them on the break.

Why? They won the league by 10 points, teams tried that the whole 2nd half of the season and it didn't work

Don't get this obsession with age, hes not that old.

They won't find anyone for 20 million who will scored 25 goals and contribute like he did.
 
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