James Mcclean


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This is a great post. It's amazing the way the British public have been sheltered from the heinous crimes the British Army committed in Ireland. Blood Sunday was only one incident in a litany of cold blooded sectarian murders carried out by it's armed forces in Ireland. It's not a case of both sides being as bad as each other either.
Do you wear a poppy?
 
What do you base that on? How would you feel if an Englishman deliberately disrespected the Irish national anthem because the IRA bombed a Birmingham pub, murdering innocent people, while playing in your country ( assuming you're Irish)?

Eh, the fact you called him a "Thick Spud ****" maybe, which in my eyes is clearly racist towards Irish people.

The British army murdered countless Irish people too or are you not aware of that?

I don't bother with all that lark tbh, I'm Irish yes and proud. I don't hate English people either for that matter.[/QUOTE]
Aye, large proportion of people on here,I guess, would have some Irish heritage, its complicated?? Feel some sympathy for the disenfranchised N Irish protestants too???
 
My point is McClean is as Irish as someone from Dublin or Cork, yet many on here cannot grasp that.

So divided in some cases yes, but in others it isn't.

Nope, it's still divided.

The lad is a thick as mince hypocrite. However, I would fight for his right to express his opinion, something which the IRA were quite willing to give up during WWII if it meant removing the British from Ireland.
 
This is a great post. It's amazing the way the British public have been sheltered from the heinous crimes the British Army committed in Ireland. Blood Sunday was only one incident in a litany of cold blooded sectarian murders carried out by it's armed forces in Ireland. It's not a case of both sides being as bad as each other either.
The British armed forces were in Britain not Ireland
 
I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that James McClean will know lads who lived in those streets. They will have a very different perspective from your mates who were in the Army there. And from his perspective, I completely understand why he doesn't want to sing God Save The Queen.


No you won't, we are not arsehole bigots in general, just like the vast majority of southern Irish are not violent anti British, but there are arsehole like McClesn, and apologists like yourself who cause resentment.[/QUOTE]

Wow, how am I an apologist?

You used a racist term to describe an Irish person, I'm an Irish person too so I pulled you up on it.

Have I said "fuck the UK" or "McClean was dead right" no, so how am I an apologist exactly?
 
I'll make the point again. You (rather distastefully) assume that anyone who who disagrees with McLean's views is either ignorant of or uncaring towards the innocent people killed in Derry at Bloody Sunday. But the point is that many (in fact most) British people disapprove very strongly of what happened. I also understand why the British army is a controversial topic in Northern Ireland. But McLean is happy to glorify the atrocities of the IRA. Because all the while he wants to use the genuine grievances of Irish Catholics as the reason for his stance, he endorses the suffering of others. He requires a level of understanding for his position that he's not prepared to offer to others. No better than when loyalists go on about IRA actions while glossing over their own. He's a hypocrite, and unless you're prepared to actually address this point after multiple times of raising it, so are you.

It's a very simplistic, naive and ignorant viewpoint to paint both sides as bad as each other. Do you even understand the basis for this conflict and the role of the British Armed forces who were there under the guise of keeping the peace?
 
You should spend more time trying to loose that gut of yours instead of being on the internet, your intellectual levels are being shown up when you talk to the big boys.
Oh sorry big boy,don't like to mess with you upstanding fine boy is
 
This is a great post. It's amazing the way the British public have been sheltered from the heinous crimes the British Army committed in Ireland. Blood Sunday was only one incident in a litany of cold blooded sectarian murders carried out by it's armed forces in Ireland. It's not a case of both sides being as bad as each other either.
And still you continue to ignore the acts of terrorism carried out by the IRA. You referred to it as "war" aswell, very strange. Your username doesn't help either. Chill out man and realise people arn't trying to make an enemy of you.
 
Time will sort it all out, my sympathy, is with
And still you continue to ignore the acts of terrorism carried out by the IRA. You referred to it as "war" aswell, very strange. Your username doesn't help either. Chill out man and realise people arn't trying to make an enemy of you.
you show little insight IMO
 
What do you base that on? How would you feel if an Englishman deliberately disrespected the Irish national anthem because the IRA bombed a Birmingham pub, murdering innocent people, while playing in your country ( assuming you're Irish)?

Eh, the fact you called him a "Thick Spud Twat" maybe, which in my eyes is clearly racist towards Irish people.

The British army murdered countless Irish people too or are you not aware of that?

I don't bother with all that lark tbh, I'm Irish yes and proud. I don't hate English people either for that matter.[/QUOTE]

If you don't like us, don't support us, don't come to this country. I don't have a problem with the Irish in general, but wankers like him deserve all they get.

Calling him spud thick is appropriate, not racist., how is calling someone thick as a tatey any different to saying thick as mince!
 
It's Ireland, pal. The hint is in the name. I feel sorry for the feeble and warped mindset you have, probably revering a family of inbred Nazis.
Strange when you talk to Belfast lads they insist they are British and loyal to our Queen
 
It's a very simplistic, naive and ignorant viewpoint to paint both sides as bad as each other. Do you even understand the basis for this conflict and the role of the British Armed forces who were there under the guise of keeping the peace?

Once again you make no attempt to acknowledge any atrocities other than the ones you care about so you can stick your special pleading up your arse.
 
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