James Mcclean


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Has @Boinger been on here yet?

Yes I've read all the earlier posts and whatever the historical arguments, for all his "principles" he has shown a total disrepect for the club and, more importantly, us the fans. As many have said, it seems his principles do not stretch to earning a lot of British coin.

We had this type of disrepectful shite from Anelka..........We got rid asap.

I personally hope they rip up his contract now.
 
Yes I've read all the earlier posts and whatever the historical arguments, for all his "principles" he has shown a total disrepect for the club and, more importantly, us the fans. As many have said, it seems his principles do not stretch to earning a lot of British coin.

We had this type of disrepectful shite from Anelka..........We got rid asap.

I personally hope they rip up his contract now.

I think Anelka's quenelle gesture is different to not facing a flag during a national anthem mind. For one, the quenelle is actively anti-Semitic which has far greater meaning than a passive gesture that is simply not looking at a flag.
 
I think Anelka's quenelle gesture is different to not facing a flag during a national anthem mind. For one, the quenelle is actively anti-Semitic which has far greater meaning than a passive gesture that is simply not looking at a flag.

Not bothered which is worse Frijj, both have bought unnecessary bad publicity for the club, both should be dealt with the same i.e. dismissal.
 
I think for him though, that facing the flag would have meant dishonouring the memories of those who had died. If that's what he believes it must hurt him to do that.

I bet there are plenty of Israelites who would struggle to stand and face the German flag - not exactly comparable, granted, but along similar lines.

Not comparable at all, seen as the current German flag has nothing whatsoever to do with the Third Reich.
 
Not comparable at all, seen as the current German flag has nothing whatsoever to do with the Third Reich.

Current English flag has a canny bit to do with England - and Britain during the troubles though.

Still some will call him worse than shit because he didn't face their flag during the national anthem that they don't even know the second f***ing verse to

It's just a flag, it's just an anthem. If you're allowed to be offended by him not respecting it, he's allowed to not respect it
 
Current English flag has a canny bit to do with England - and Britain during the troubles though.

Still some will call him worse than shit because he didn't face their flag during the national anthem that they don't even know the second f***ing verse to

It's just a flag, it's just an anthem. If you're allowed to be offended by him not respecting it, he's allowed to not respect it

We're agreed. He can do what he likes but I'm equally free to think he's a tit for doing it.

If it bothers him that much he shouldn't be here. It's that simple.

Ah so you're implying that anyone who isn't disrespected by him doesn't care about their country? Nice one

No, but some people do actually place value in their national emblems and traditions.
 
You're the second person to claim they know why I'm wrong but not actually tell me today like



I don't think it's bigoted to not pay respect to a country's flag or anthem mind

What he did was blatant disrespect. There is a difference, although I suspect you deliberately choose to ignore it.
 
We're agreed. He can do what he likes but I'm equally free to think he's a tit for doing it.

If it bothers him that much he shouldn't be here. It's that simple.



No, but some people do actually place value in their national emblems and traditions.

Do they place so much value on them that they demand everyone pay the same value?

What he did was blatant disrespect. There is a difference, although I suspect you deliberately choose to ignore it.

Is he not free to disrespect the national anthem if he so wishes? Why do you want to force him to do so? Do you really care this much about your country or is this yet more outrage over absolutely fuck all?
 
Do they place so much value on them that they demand everyone pay the same value?



Is he not free to disrespect the national anthem if he so wishes? Why do you want to force him to do so? Do you really care this much about your country or is this yet more outrage over absolutely fuck all?

Give your head a shake, read your post back, it doesn't make sense, you want me to force him to disrespect the flag, have you eaten some dodgy mushrooms or something?
 
cant see it myself
No ? Ah well .
False symbolic division based on nationalism , we don't need it , it serves those who do well out of the division. At a basic level I have more in common with an Irish or polish worker than an English monarch . I personally don't sing to flags.. only the red one.. ;)
 
Give your head a shake, read your post back, it doesn't make sense, you want me to force him to disrespect the flag, have you eaten some dodgy mushrooms or something?

:lol:

You want to force him to respect the flag.

Why shouldn't he be free to disrespect the flag in a non-violent, non-hated inciting way? He simply stood there with his head bowed.

I obviously don't condone violence or flag burning etc but if someone does not want to pay their respects to a national anthem why should they have to?!
 
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