James Mcclean


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The Northern Ireland supporters club in Belfast had an orange order flag flying outside their pub last week, a healthy portion of people up the North are living in the past not just the likes of mcclean.
Of course but a lot of people are trying to change that. The IFA have done plenty to cross the divide. There is a lot more Catholics in the NI squad now and the manager is one.
 
Disrespecting the fans and country who pay his wages someone needs to have a word with the little shit.
 
And once again you have made no attempt to understand the basis of the conflict. The IRA came into being after the sacking of Bombay Street where loyalists were given carte blanche to burn nationalists out of their homes. The police and security forces made no effort to prevent attacks on a marginalised and discriminated section of a state founded on a sectarian basis.

Regrettable things happened in this conflict on both sides but trying to paint it as the premise as both sides were as bad as each other is ignorant. Were the allies as bad as the Nazis?
Ludicrous post, for every loyalist atrocity you could give a Republican example, until people like yourself are ready to consign this to history, the longer we'll still be getting incidents like this weekend continuing to happen. Unfortunately there are clowns like yourself on both sides who are hellbent on perpetuating the problems of the past, instead of embracing peace and moving forward with respect and dignity.
 
El Bomber aside, I don't share his views either.

But can you honestly tell me some of these "great" SAFC supporters aren't here to spout vile because they've an Anti Irish agenda, if you ignore that fine but I can't.
Some of the bigotry against the Irish on here is an absolute disgrace, but as Im sure you've found when you've been here, it isn't the norm.
 
Some of the bigotry against the Irish on here is an absolute disgrace, but as Im sure you've found when you've been here, it isn't the norm.
I'd agree with that. All being said though there's quite a bit of bigotry towards the English as well.

Someone still hasn't commented on the fact that it was the Normans who "invaded" Ireland 800 years ago, the same Normans that invaded England a little(in historical terms) earlier.
 
Well I'd like to think any posters on here with a James McClean agenda and dislike for the man, wouldn't start throwing out anti Irish terms. It's not our fault he acted in that manner that he did.

As I said last night, I can take a joke and a laugh no problem once it's in good humour in regard to slagging Ireland or whatever, but some of the stuff I read on here last night was pretty low and bad humoured.

Blatant disrespect for all things associated with Great Britain, and done so publicly tends to bring on a negative response. I regret one of the things I posted last night, but everything else I stand by.

He's an odious thicko, and posters like Il bomber spouting anti British shite in his support, mixed with Saturday night alcohol bring out the worst in people. If either of them repeated that in a pub full of football fans, what do you think would happen?
 
To be fair to the lad, put yourself in his shoes.

The one country that he believes oppressed his people also happens to be the one country he can use his skills at a high level and make a living out of it

If the only place you could use your skills to make a living was a country you hated what would you do?

Bear in mind he has to earn enough in ~15 years to last him and his family a lifetime
Why?
There's nothing to stop him working after his football career

He's an arsehole because he doesn't want to show any recognition for the national anthem of a country he believes oppressed and murdered his countrymen? Regardless of whether or not he's right about that, if he genuinely believes it, why shouldn't he be allowed to act in that manner?

He's not inciting hatred, he's not burning poppies or flags or abusing anyone and if he does so, I don't condone it, but turning your back on a national anthem is a personal choice and until you can understand why he's done it you can't really call him an arsehole with any conviction
Haven't you read this thread
he most obviously is. Bigotry seems to breed bigotry
 
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Read your posts.

Why be so vague there mate? I obviously can't "see" whatever it is you're pointing out otherwise I wouldn't be posting what I've posted, so just come out with it.

Why?
There's nothing to stop him working after his football career

There isn't, but like the vast majority of people, I bet he wants to earn enough to retire early. Not to mention the fact that footballers tend to sacrifice formal education from their mid-teens onwards to concentrate on football, leaving him poorly skilled for a life outside of football and there's only a finite number of non-playing jobs in football.
 
There isn't, but like the vast majority of people, I bet he wants to earn enough to retire early. Not to mention the fact that footballers tend to sacrifice formal education from their mid-teens onwards to concentrate on football, leaving him poorly skilled for a life outside of football and there's only a finite number of non-playing jobs in football.
And there's no rreason at all why he cant get another job 'like the vast majority of people'.
Being thick is no excuse
 
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As far as I know he did stand in silence, he just chose to turn his back on a flag and anthem that signifies oppression and imperialism in his native land.



Il Bomber is Italian for "The Striker" but I would not expect a halfwit like you to put two and two together. Keep on buying your red top newspapers and imparting your wilful ignorance on others, it reflects well upon you.
Turned his back on a flag that represents the country in which the football club he is currently employed by resides.

You don't half talk some rubbish. All he had to was stand there in silence. But no, he had make a point didn't he and all he's done is spark anger and he's too thick to understand that.

Can you offer a reasonable argument as to why he isn't a hypocrite for turning his back on British symbols yet earns a good loving here? Take your tricoloured tinted specs off if possible please.
 
Tbh, I think this post is patronising in the extreme, everyone is entitled to their oppinion and there are plenty of people on this board who know very well what the troubles were/are about, it's not as if it was a secret and un-documented.
Fair enough, wasn't meant to be patronising although reading it back it could be taken like that.
 
Why be so vague there mate? I obviously can't "see" whatever it is you're pointing out otherwise I wouldn't be posting what I've posted, so just come out with it.



There isn't, but like the vast majority of people, I bet he wants to earn enough to retire early. Not to mention the fact that footballers tend to sacrifice formal education from their mid-teens onwards to concentrate on football, leaving him poorly skilled for a life outside of football and there's only a finite number of non-playing jobs in football.
He turned down a move to the MLS this summer. So he did have a choice. He's entitled to his views just like are entitled to criticize his views. People in the North are building a better future and are working together. I think it's sad that McClean wants to live in the past and let hatred ruin his career. IMO, he deserves the stick he's getting because he's a bigot and wants to hold his country back. People like him, whether they are nationalists or unionist, who want to continue the fight don't deserve respect.
 
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