James Mcclean


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You don't seem to know your history or you might have a little bit more empathy with McClean on this matter. Instead you seem to be one of the ignorant bigots who thinks that Britain is holier than thou. It's not and the conflict was wholly borne out of British imperialism and oppression.

I do know the history. I grew up with it and I've seen and read countless documentaries and documents on the subject. My point is that McClean is a f***ing hypocrite, and that's a point you've failed to respond to. I supported his decision not to wear the poppy, and still do, but to deliberately disrespect a national anthem is the action of a bigoted cretin. The very reason that the island of Ireland can't move on entirely to peace is because of imbeciles like him.
 
Like I said, there should be a rule that players, clubs, governments etc. cannot involve politics in sport. If anthems aren't played then people can't make a protest.
I see where you're coming from with that but I'm not sure I agree.
If attention seeking fcktards weren't going on like this it would be just a way of showing mutual respect. Unfortunately it's given this scum a platform to show his vile bigotry and disrespect for the very fans who pay his wages. The organizers of the match probably didn't see that coming and thought it would have been a nice gesture between the fans.
Sadly some people enjoy creating problems within society
 
I don't think there's any need for that mate; you can't hate a whole section of society based on the views of a serial offender like McClean. Ireland has moved on.



I don't think there's any need for that mate; you can't hate a whole section of society based on the views of a serial offender like McClean. Ireland has moved on.
There is plenty of pro its supporters about still not just Mr McLean who I will hate till my dying day. I can speak to plenty of Irish people and be fine it's the ones who have not moved on the ra support.
 
The same Provos who were formed when Bombay Street was sacked and hundreds of Catholics were drive out of their homes in an openly sectarian state where police and security forces were quite happy to turn a blind eye or even collude in these attack.

The same Provos who grew in popularity as the British Armed Forces carried out atrocity after atrocity on innocent nationalists. There were plenty of kids shot dead with bullets by the British Army who there under the guise of keeping the peace.

The fact is there was a peaceful civil rights movement in the Occupied Six and we all know what happened them on Bloody Sunday......

We have a relatively peaceful situation now, a more equal society but that was far removed from my formative years growing up and the world that my parents and their relatives, neigbours and friends lived through. You've never had to deal with discrimination, intimidation from imperial forces, not having the same rights to education, voting, housing and employment because of your religion. But the nationalist community tried the peaceful route and were brutally gunned down in broad daylight by an occupying imperialist force. The nationalist community were marginalised with nobody to stick up for them and when they tried to do it themselves through peaceful means, well the history books will tell you what happened then.

For any rational and informed person, it would be quite easy to be empathetic with McClean and understand why he does what he does. For an ignorant or deluded person not willing to educate himself, well then a viewpoint like yours might be reached.

Rational and informed, you? :lol::lol:
 
I do know the history. I grew up with it and I've seen and read countless documentaries and documents on the subject. My point is that McClean is a f***ing hypocrite, and that's a point you've failed to respond to. I supported his decision not to wear the poppy, and still do, but to deliberately disrespect a national anthem is the action of a bigoted cretin. The very reason that the island of Ireland can't move on entirely to peace is because of imbeciles like him.

Your understanding seems to be very shallow. For Irish people, particularly those nationalists who grew up in the midst of the troubles, God Save The Queen is symbolic with the British Imperialism that forced the nationalist community to forcefully live as second class citizens in their own country for years on years. If you can't empathise how any Irish person might have the same stance as McClean then I feel you have a very shallow understanding of matters. McClean came from an area which was probably one of the most impacted by the British Armed Forces during the troubles, I doubt you'd find many people from the Creggan who would disagree with what he did.

Rational and informed, you? :lol::lol:

Clearly more so than a small minded bigot like you.
 
He should piss off back to Ireland if he dislikes Britain so much and he can while away his career with Shamrock Rovers.

Fuck him.

Your understanding seems to be very shallow. For Irish people, particularly those nationalists who grew up in the midst of the troubles, God Save The Queen is symbolic with the British Imperialism that forced the nationalist community to forcefully live as second class citizens in their own country for years on years. If you can't empathise how any Irish person might have the same stance as McClean then I feel you have a very shallow understanding of matters. McClean came from an area which was probably one of the most impacted by the British Armed Forces during the troubles, I doubt you'd find many people from the Creggan who would disagree with what he did.



Clearly more so than a small minded bigot like you.
If he's that bothered by the events of the past hay he can't stand in silence for 2 minutes he shouldn't be playing football in Britain.

He's a hypocrite.
 
Your understanding seems to be very shallow. For Irish people, particularly those nationalists who grew up in the midst of the troubles, God Save The Queen is symbolic with the British Imperialism that forced the nationalist community to forcefully live as second class citizens in their own country for years on years. If you can't empathise how any Irish person might have the same stance as McClean then I feel you have a very shallow understanding of matters. McClean came from an area which was probably one of the most impacted by the British Armed Forces during the troubles, I doubt you'd find many people from the Creggan who would disagree with what he did.



Clearly more so than a small minded bigot like you.

Coming from someone with a user name ll Bomber? I suspect you are in fact James McClean or a close relative.
 
He should piss off back to Ireland if he dislikes Britain so much and he can while away his career with Shamrock Rovers.

Fuck him.


If he's that bothered by the events of the past hay he can't stand in silence for 2 minutes he shouldn't be playing football in Britain.

He's a hypocrite.

As far as I know he did stand in silence, he just chose to turn his back on a flag and anthem that signifies oppression and imperialism in his native land.

Coming from someone with a user name ll Bomber? I suspect you are in fact James McClean or a close relative.

Il Bomber is Italian for "The Striker" but I would not expect a halfwit like you to put two and two together. Keep on buying your red top newspapers and imparting your wilful ignorance on others, it reflects well upon you.
 
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Man from occupied nation not "saluting" the imperialist oppressor shocker!
Shocker yeah ? Having strong Northern Irish roots. But then idiots like him keep the shit going on like this ? Hmm I've had family affected by the troubles. He's republican scum.
 
He should piss off back to Ireland if he dislikes Britain so much and he can while away his career with Shamrock Rovers.

Fuck him.


If he's that bothered by the events of the past hay he can't stand in silence for 2 minutes he shouldn't be playing football in Britain.

He's a hypocrite.
I know quite a bit about Irish history and visit the place quite a bit,I have even drank in the creggan estate in derry so I understand what gstq means to nationalists in the north but why didn't he just not sing it,what he did was disrepect somebody elses anthem and west brom,God only knows what the americans thought of it
He's representng west brom football club in the usa,even if you don't agree with the anthem you don't disrepect it like that
 
I know quite a bit about Irish history and visit the place quite a bit,I have even drank in the creggan estate in derry so I understand what gstq means to nationalists in the north but why didn't he just not sing it,what he did was disrepect somebody elses anthem and west brom,God only knows what the americans thought of it
He's representng west brom football club in the usa,even if you don't agree with the anthem you don't disrepect it like that
I am of Northern Irish family,
Your obviously catholic fella but we cannot really ever move forward with fuck wits like him in The public.
 
This kid reminds me of the Rik Mayall character in The Young Ones. I half expect him to start banging on about how "Youd think Cliff Richard had never sang Devil Woman" at any minute.
Someone really should take his Gandhi and MalcolmX dvds away. Mebbes even hide his Mandella books anarl.
 
As far as I know he did stand in silence, he just chose to turn his back on a flag and anthem that signifies oppression and imperialism in his native land.



Il Bomber is Italian for "The Striker" but I would not expect a halfwit like you to put two and two together. Keep on buying your red top newspapers and imparting your wilful ignorance on others, it reflects well upon you.

Thanks James.
 
The majority of Irish people like myself, like the English.

Some people on here are using this thread to spout their hatred for Irish people unfortunately.

I know. I lived in Ireland for 3 years.

Sorry I didn't mean generic Irish attitudes towards the English. I meant if individual Irish people (like jimmy mac) had views and they caused any offence then it would be incumbent on the Englishman living in Ireland to learn a little history (example in my time was the protests by some people about rugby being played at Croke Park as well as GSTQ).

However in this case Jimmy Mac is the guy living abroad. He should be trying to distinguish the difference between imperialist militarism and standard respectful patriotism. The latter should be respected the former I would expect a Derry native to take a stand and communicate his decision properly to his employers. He did that with Wigan but not us.
 
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