James Mcclean


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What a cretin you are. We aren't ignorant, we know the history, we know atrocities were carried out by both sides, and we also know that McClean is a f***ing hypocrite.

You don't seem to know your history or you might have a little bit more empathy with McClean on this matter. Instead you seem to be one of the ignorant bigots who thinks that Britain is holier than thou. It's not and the conflict was wholly borne out of British imperialism and oppression.
 
You are a child murdering apologist. If you hate the British so much then fair enough, but don't post on here and stop supporting an English team you hypocritical wank.

I'll treat everyone at face value. I don't hate Britain but I despise the way the British public have been brainwashed about what their forces did in my country and the way their government enforced discriminatory policies and governments on my people, the natives of the land. What Britain has done in Ireland has been disgusting, it's mostly in the past now but don't act like it didn't happened or try and paint is both sides were as bad as each other. It was never like that and the comments on this thread would seem to show a massive delusion with certain people on what actually happened.
 
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You don't seem to know your history or you might have a little bit more empathy with McClean on this matter. Instead you seem to be one of the ignorant bigots who thinks that Britain is holier than thou. It's not and the conflict was wholly borne out of British imperialism and oppression.

Here's a bit of modern history for you. IRA defeated militarily. Provo high command agrees to talks. 20 years later, same provos are shaking hands with the queen and accepting invitation's to Royal garden parties.

Same provos who murdered lord Mountbatten, his 13 year old grand child and a local 15 year old.

You must be proud. Its not much different to having Ian Huntley as as a hero.

I'll treat everyone at face value. I don't hate Britain but I despise the way the British public have been brainwashed about what their forces did in my country and the way their government enforced discriminatory policies and governments on my people, the natives of the land. What Britain has done in Ireland has been disgusting, it's mostly in the past now but don't act like it didn't happened or try and paint is both sides were as bad as each other. It was never like that and the comments on this thread would seem to show a massive delusion with certain people on what actually happened.

Piss off, please support someone else and take your appalling opinions with you. I haven't got problems with Irish people, just dickhead like you. Nothing to do with your nationality, colour of skin or hair, just you're horrible views
 
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Here's a bit of modern history for you. IRA defeated militarily. Provo high command agrees to talks. 20 years later, same provos are shaking hands with the queen and accepting invitation's to Royal garden parties.

Same provos who murdered lord Mountbatten, his 13 year old grand child and a local 15 year old.

You must be proud. Its not much different to having Ian Huntley as as a hero.

The same Provos who were formed when Bombay Street was sacked and hundreds of Catholics were drive out of their homes in an openly sectarian state where police and security forces were quite happy to turn a blind eye or even collude in these attack.

The same Provos who grew in popularity as the British Armed Forces carried out atrocity after atrocity on innocent nationalists. There were plenty of kids shot dead with bullets by the British Army who there under the guise of keeping the peace.

The fact is there was a peaceful civil rights movement in the Occupied Six and we all know what happened them on Bloody Sunday......

We have a relatively peaceful situation now, a more equal society but that was far removed from my formative years growing up and the world that my parents and their relatives, neigbours and friends lived through. You've never had to deal with discrimination, intimidation from imperial forces, not having the same rights to education, voting, housing and employment because of your religion. But the nationalist community tried the peaceful route and were brutally gunned down in broad daylight by an occupying imperialist force. The nationalist community were marginalised with nobody to stick up for them and when they tried to do it themselves through peaceful means, well the history books will tell you what happened then.

For any rational and informed person, it would be quite easy to be empathetic with McClean and understand why he does what he does. For an ignorant or deluded person not willing to educate himself, well then a viewpoint like yours might be reached.
 
If he feels so strongly about it..and fair enough he has every right to do so..then why would he play in an English league?

Back in 68 when Carlos and Smith raised their hands on the podium in the Black Panther salute..they coudn;t exactly run the 100 metres for Norway..but this lad could play football in many countries, including his own.
 
Maybe some of you should check out what happened in Derry on the 30th January 1972 and you might understand his stance.

Government intervention to protect the population (from each other)

Civil disobedience develops into serious disorder.

Inappropriate deployment of combat troops

Shots fired.

Legend created.

Truth obscured

This is a great post. It's amazing the way the British public have been sheltered from the heinous crimes the British Army committed in Ireland. Blood Sunday was only one incident in a litany of cold blooded sectarian murders carried out by it's armed forces in Ireland. It's not a case of both sides being as bad as each other either.

As a good friend of mine from Ulster told me, it wasn't a war to begin with bus that's what it became.

Truth is, some people wanted it.

The forces sent there to keep the peace weren't prepared for the welcome they received.
 
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Maybe some of you should check out what happened in Derry on the 30th January 1972 and you might understand his stance.

we've all moved on man... well the sensible ones among us have. many concessions have been made in the name of peace. convicted terrorists and hardened criminals from both sides were let out to live their lives as part of the good friday agreement. olive branches have been extended and taken, yet fools like him (who wasn't even born) still play the victim and romanticise about "the troubles". even hollywood don't care anymore.

i served out there and have no ill will or axe to grind against any part of any community. i didn't then and i don't now.
 
You haven't a notion. They were sent in to protect the peace. On Bloody Sunday a peaceful civil rights march took place and they murdered 14 innocent boys and men, that was one of the many atrocities they committed in my country, a country which was invaded by a foreign country over 800 years ago and where the natives lived as second class citizens in the aftermath. It's obscene what Britain have done in Ireland but you've probably being brainwashed into believing in the Great British Empire.

The truth is, if it hadn't been England that invaded Ireland it would've been some other European power.

That's why England invaded.

What took place over the following centuries is a complex tale.
 
From a family affected by the troubles, it's bellends like this is why I will Never have sympathy or forgive the Fenian fuckers.

He is pro ra another reason why and good Ireland won't unite.
The Hatrid I have for this man is on a level like nothing else.
If he was not playing football he would have a active part in the current ra regime imo.
 
It's a shit anthem anyway to be fair unless you believe in fairies and respect Hitlers mates. I cringe every time I hear it.
 
Nowt wrong with his choices and beliefs

Don't see why clubs sign him though if they aren't prepared for the inevitable backlash mind. The lad is clearly a knobhead though
What's wrong is you could simply stand there and do nothing. That is a protest against. You don't have to protest at every juncture.

My Uncle was killed by The Germans in France but I have visited and enjoyed Germany many times. It never crossed my mind to bring up the war never mind protest.
 
What a complete car crash of a thread. I'd imagine there will be a few sore heads this morning and some folk will cringe when they see what they've posted. That arsehole with his repeated random anti-Irish insults is a disgrace; you don't need goal line technology to see that he's a shameless bigot.
 
From a family affected by the troubles, it's bellends like this is why I will Never have sympathy or forgive the Fenian fuckers.

I don't think there's any need for that mate; you can't hate a whole section of society based on the views of a serial offender like McClean. Ireland has moved on.

From a family affected by the troubles, it's bellends like this is why I will Never have sympathy or forgive the Fenian fuckers.

I don't think there's any need for that mate; you can't hate a whole section of society based on the views of a serial offender like McClean. Ireland has moved on.
 
I haven't read 16 pages of this but an easy solution would be to make footy non-political. There's no need to play any anthems for a friendly or a league match. For internationals we could play Kum-Ba-Yah or Imagine and hold hands with each other.
 
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