James Bulger murder


She needs to be careful then. It is a criminal offence to divulge that obviously extremely sensitive information, even to her own son.

she’s retired and was donkey years ago, and it was in the media years later.
From what i recall I think that was the start of weak, soft sentences enabled by liberal enablers. Such slaps on the wrist are commonplace now for all variety of crime, thats if the case ever gets to court.

No one is suggesting executing two ten yearolds but they were out in no time iirc :lol: (and clearly hadn’t learned their lesson, or at least one of them hadn’t).

Rumours like this are rife in backwater towns and villages about every baddun.

But one was certainly in Medomsley Detention centre for a while between Consett & Rowlands Gill IIRC.

ah that’s it, she will have been to the detention centre with her job.
 
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Was a very good program on about it, how it unfolded minute by minute, the search, shutting down metros etc.

The Internet searches from the two lasses gives a canny indication of intent. Grim.

They were actually named on some blog online. I recall seeing it. They were without doubt absolute wrongun’s who would have potentially done something similar imo.

Again they were the stock of a scruffy horrid family devoid of morals, decency and a work ethic
 
Fuck sake just read about the suzanne capper murder that happened the same time as this, grim as fuck.
 
Didn’t one of the killers get housed in either Sunlun or Gateshead under his new identity.
Pretty sure me mother told me this and she worked for an organisation that would get to know.

This could be total bollocks but I heard from a few people that he was living in Morpeth for a bit but had to be moved on after he got sussed.
 
That is why, imo, the parents should have been punished.
Can see where you are coming from buts it a dodgy precedent to start.

While, I fully accept there are parents out there who couldn't give a flying fuck about their offspring , there are plenty who have done all they can and still the kids go off the rails.

There will be families where all the kids have been brought up the same but one is an absolute shit, yet the others are fine.

Of course this case is the extreme as thankfully most 10 years who are little bastards don't go and kill kids.
 
Can see where you are coming from buts it a dodgy precedent to start.

While, I fully accept there are parents out there who couldn't give a flying fuck about their offspring , there are plenty who have done all they can and still the kids go off the rails.

There will be families where all the kids have been brought up the same but one is an absolute shit, yet the others are fine.

Of course this case is the extreme as thankfully most 10 years who are little bastards don't go and kill kids.
If parents are brought to book though, it will be seen if they were trying to bring up their children well. They wouldn't just be thrown into jail. In the Bulger case the parents should have been punished.

I think if you have children you should be responsible for their behaviour until age 16. If they do wrong, it could well be the parents' fault .
 
It's horrifying and it really shook me up.

I really feel for Ben Needham's Mam. All these years and she's never found out what happened to him. Can't begin to imagine how hard that is to live with.

I think they finally found out Becs.
I’m sure a farmer knocked him down and killed him accidentally as he was playing then panicked and buried the boys body.
He confessed to a friend when he was on his death bed and the friend then reported it once he farmer had died.
They excavated the area and I think they found the toys he’d been playing with at the time
 
Investigation never went far enough, should’ve locked up the killers parents imho
I sympathise and strongly agree that there is almost certainly huge blame on the parents. Goodness knows what sort of upbringing Venables and Thompson had.

However there isn’t, and in this country probably never will be, a law against just being a crap parent. That is a sociological problem that will always be with us. Same as crap husbands, crap dog owners, crap employees. At least you can divorce a crap husband and sack a crap employee.
It never fails to shock me the number of people that saw James that day and did nothing. I believe only one woman stopped and questioned the killers.
I agree.... there were loads of witnesses. I think 2 stepped forward and challenged the boys but were fobbed off with “he’s out little brother” or “we’re taking him to the police station”. FFS!! One witness even reported seeing the kid crying his eyes out as they approached the railway embankment. Makes me feel physically sick even thinking about it.
 
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I sympathise and strongly agree that there is almost certainly huge blame on the parents. Goodness knows what sort of upbringing Venables and Thompson had.

However there isn’t, and in this country probably never will be, a law against just being a crap parent. That is a sociological problem that will always be with us. Same as crap husbands, crap dog owners, crap employees. At least you can divorce a crap husband and sack a crap employee.
Not so easy to get rid of crap parents though. And you likely wouldn't even know they were crap at a young age.
 
Yes, exactly. None of us have any control on who our parents are and how crap/good they might be at parenting.
(Thompson and) Venables had a dire upbringing, I've always thought the parents should have been culpable in that case.
(I've bracketed as I'm going from memory)
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If you have been hit, hurt, all your life you are going to have no moral compass.
 
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(Thompson and) Venables had a dire upbringing, I've always thought the parents should have been culpable in that case.
(I've bracketed as I'm going from memory)
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If you have been hit, hurt, all your life you are going to have no moral compass.
I got quite a bit of nasty abuse trying to suggest something along those lines in another thread. A few raw nerves were touched I think.

The Bulger case is interesting from a Criminology perspective. Obviously there is huge and understandable bad feeling towards the two boys who tortured and murdered James Bulger. However there is also in many people sympathy for those same two children because they had such an incredible disadvantage in their upbringing.
 

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