James Bulger murder


Worked in the triad a few times , hmrc building above the shopping centre , mate from work was in Liverpool when the trial was held , he said it was an awful uneasy atmosphere

The triad is such a lovely building, particularly like the spoons and Yates either side of the entrance.

Been in the shopping centre he was took from a few times too.
 
Didn’t one of the killers get housed in either Sunlun or Gateshead under his new identity.
Pretty sure me mother told me this and she worked for an organisation that would get to know.
She needs to be careful then. It is a criminal offence to divulge that obviously extremely sensitive information, even to her own son.
 
It’s raises the old question about parental responsibility again.
This was a pre Internet age so somehow these boys have got it into their heads that what they did was ok.
Where did that thought process come from - it wasn’t a naturally occurring process that all 10 year olds go through.
Someone somehow sometime had triggered this behaviour.Those who created these monsters should have faced justice for their part in this dreadful crime.
There is a book out by the barrister who lead the prosecution and he wrote a chapter about the case. He reckons that one of the boys in particular was completely aware of his actions and was a horrible calculating little shit (I paraphrase... I can't remember his exact words) with the other one being very easily influenced. There was much legal debate over the age of criminal responsibility during this case.

The evidence from the trial itself makes for dreadful reading. Something went very wrong in the upbringing of those two boys. I felt physically sick reading it.
 
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Seems hard to believe there could be two evil kids in the same class at school so seems like one was heavily influenced by the other. Doesn't excuse his part in it like.

Imagine it was the one who has been done for being a nonce still getting out was the major influence.

The other lad hasn't been in bother I dont think since his release.
 
Why would you?

If there wiing to commit a hideous murder then they dont deserve any trust.

You too have missed my point. He specifically said he couldn't trust someone of such a young age.... Implying age was the reason. I was highlighting if you are going to trust in terms of rehabilitation, then the younger the better. And if you can't trust a ten year old you basically can't trust anyone who does such a crime.
Imagine it was the one who has been done for being a nonce still getting out was the major influence.

The other lad hasn't been in bother I dont think since his release.

Someone has said on this thread its the other way round.
 
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You too have missed my point. He specifically said he couldn't trust someone of such a young age.... Implying age was the reason. I was highlighting if you are going to trust in terms of rehabilitation, then the younger the better. And if you can't trust a ten year old you basically can't trust anyone who does such a crime.


Someone has said on this thread its the other way round.
Yeah I did. It’s Venables still being a wrong un. He needs a bullet behind the ear.
 
You'd have put two 10 year olds to death?
Or would you wait until they were 18, then open the hatch.

Keep them locked up for the rest of their days. I'm not sure you could ever rehabilitate a person who was capable of that at 10.
Wait until they are older, then tell them they are getting released and at the last minute stick em in electric chair
They were let out ages ago. (well one keeps ending up back for being a nonce)
Really thought they were still locked up... That's wrong
 
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Almost any murder is fairly gruesome. Iirc weren't they trying to re-enact a scene from childs play 3?Read quite a lot on it over the years as from a criminology point of view its quite an interesting case. Unsure what goes on in the mind for child killers though very odd behaviour
 
Almost any murder is fairly gruesome. Iirc weren't they trying to re-enact a scene from childs play 3?Read quite a lot on it over the years as from a criminology point of view its quite an interesting case. Unsure what goes on in the mind for child killers though very odd behaviour
Empathy or lack of is the big clue and being accustomed to violence growing up. I don’t believe killers are born I think they are created.
 
From what i recall I think that was the start of weak, soft sentences enabled by liberal enablers. Such slaps on the wrist are commonplace now for all variety of crime, thats if the case ever gets to court.

No one is suggesting executing two ten yearolds but they were out in no time iirc :lol: (and clearly hadn’t learned their lesson, or at least one of them hadn’t).
Didn’t one of the killers get housed in either Sunlun or Gateshead under his new identity.
Rumours like this are rife in backwater towns and villages about every baddun.

But one was certainly in Medomsley Detention centre for a while between Consett & Rowlands Gill IIRC.
 
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