James Bulger murder


People can make as many concessions due to age, or being a product of their environment as they like for the offenders, say to me think of the definition of Evil and what they subjected poor James too was exactly that, EVIL .
 
Didn’t one of the killers get housed in either Sunlun or Gateshead under his new identity.
Pretty sure me mother told me this and she worked for an organisation that would get to know.
 
It's horrifying and it really shook me up.

I really feel for Ben Needham's Mam. All these years and she's never found out what happened to him. Can't begin to imagine how hard that is to live with.
 
It still hits me to think how two ten year old boys were capable of committing such an incomprehensible act of pure evil.
We have to ask what is wrong with a society that allows children to grow up (well not even grown up at age 10) to be like that? Their parents were probably abusive or at least neglectful "scum". Society allows "video nasties" showing "torture porn" (wasn't that Chucky thing referred to?) & the selfish vote for governments that make cuts to mental health & social work budgets.
 
Remember some legal expert on a doc pointing out you wouldn't be happy having children on a jury in a murder case as they're not mature enough to make rational decisions in the way an adult can as a reason why it's never going to be right to trial them like you would an adult.

They get let out one day with new identities funded by us.... Death penalty for me... That poor kid and his family.... 28 yrs of torture

Death penalty for children?
Was that near miss in Newcastle a few years back as well, wasn't there? Horrifying stuff.

Aye, lasses took a little un but thankfully after a couple of hours (I think) they found them.
 
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It’s raises the old question about parental responsibility again.
This was a pre Internet age so somehow these boys have got it into their heads that what they did was ok.
Where did that thought process come from - it wasn’t a naturally occurring process that all 10 year olds go through.
Someone somehow sometime had triggered this behaviour.Those who created these monsters should have faced justice for their part in this dreadful crime.
 
It’s raises the old question about parental responsibility again.
This was a pre Internet age so somehow these boys have got it into their heads that what they did was ok.
Where did that thought process come from - it wasn’t a naturally occurring process that all 10 year olds go through.
Someone somehow sometime had triggered this behaviour.Those who created these monsters should have faced justice for their part in this dreadful crime.


Broken family, neglect, exposure to violence etc.
 
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Broken family, neglect, exposure to violence etc.
Thanks -although a depressing read that.

So as usual these dysfunctional families were on the radar before the catastrophic events. Have the authorities failed.
 
You'd have put two 10 year olds to death?
Or would you wait until they were 18, then open the hatch.

Keep them locked up for the rest of their days. I'm not sure you could ever rehabilitate a person who was capable of that at 10.
Tbh I would have thought the opposite. Best time to do it
 
Fucked with my head this one in that I'd always argued against those wanting them treated the same way as adult murderers, as whilst they'll have known it was wrong children don't understand in the same way adults do. But then when I see how one of the two turned out and went on to be a complete waste of skin it sort of makes me question my stance. You never hear much of the other one mind.
Seems hard to believe there could be two evil kids in the same class at school so seems like one was heavily influenced by the other. Doesn't excuse his part in it like.
 
Seems hard to believe there could be two evil kids in the same class at school so seems like one was heavily influenced by the other. Doesn't excuse his part in it like.

Aye it came out one ws very much the driving force. Agreed. Kids aren't born evil though. The family set up was a disgrace. But then you can argue there's plenty of families like that where the children don't murder.
I think that's fair, don't you?! Could you trust anyone who had committed premeditated murder?

You seemed to be focusing on their young age as a particularly reason not to trust in terms of rehabilitation. Truth is the older the harder it is. But before you jump in though, I did also point out one continued to be a scum bag waste of skin, so the point is a more general one.
 
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You seemed to be focusing on their young age as a particularly reason not to trust in terms of rehabilitation. Truth is the older the harder it is (before you jump in though, I did also point out one continued to be a scum bag waste of skin) so the point is a more general one.

I don't dispute that, and thankfully these two are an almost isolated incident in this country. In their case, I'd never let them see the free light of day again.
At this stage, I would suspect it would be for their safety as much as punishment.
 
yeh I was gonna mention this, 2 teenage girls took a 2 year old from Primark. Found in Jesmond by a stroke of luck by a PCSO

Was a very good program on about it, how it unfolded minute by minute, the search, shutting down metros etc.

The Internet searches from the two lasses gives a canny indication of intent. Grim.

I don't dispute that, and thankfully these two are an almost isolated incident in this country. In their case, I'd never let them see the free light of day again.
At this stage, I would suspect it would be for their safety as much as punishment.

Scenes outside at the time showed plenty of adults would've killed them as children.
 
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