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his villa spell was good. 6th three years running, now in the championshipNever wanted him in the first place and was baffled as to why he was so popular. Yes he was good last century, but then so was Howard Wilkinson...
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He was rubbish at villa & don't give that guff about him been a big Charlie Hurley fan
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his villa spell was good. 6th three years running, now in the championship![]()
Any facts to back this statement up? He had them 4th in 09 but they bottled it.He wasn't rubbish, but he was nowhere near as good as people on here would have you believe, and left them completely in the shit. The signs were there that he was past it and would fail here.
2nd highest spenders in Europe, never got above top 6.
I'll leave you to do the maths.
Any facts to back this statement up? He had them 4th in 09 but they bottled it.
You could say he was right because if we'd gone down he would have built a proper team & taken us back up as a proper team.
I'm glad weve got Ellis though. Because we're still in the league & we've got Big Sam.
So you have no facts.It's a well known fact. Do some research.
Keanes spend got us and kept us in the premier league not to mention it was his first job, I'd honestly say mons spend led to us playing the worst football I've ever seen and had us lerching towards relegation. Bruce for all the shite he rightfully gets for his spend at least gave us tenth and some of the best football since reidy.That's bollocks mind.....Keane spent a net £62m in two seasons largely on unmitigated shite and just total this lot up on players signed subsequent to O'Neill leaving.....Altidore, Giaccherini, Bridcutt, Buckley, Scocco, Mavrias, Karlsson, Roberge, Diakite, Gomez, Jones, Matthews, Vergini, Coates, Ba, Cabral, Rodwell, Alvarez, Lens......probably somewhere around £60m plus wages, agents fees, signing on fees etc.
So it was worse before he came and far worse after he left.......the club had a net spend of £18m during his tenancy and if Johnson hadn't been such an arsehole we'd still have some residual value, say £8m from that period.
So how bad have our other PL managers been when he has the best record statistically of the last 10 years.
But statistically he is still the best of the last 10 years and wasted less money than those who preceded him and those who followed him. In essence defending ANY of them is a bit disingenuous as the club has by and large been a shambles during our current 10 year run but O'Neill's time here is at least a match for any of the others who tried their hand.
2nd highest spenders in Europe when? I know he spent a few bob but hee surely didn't spend more than Chelsea, Madrid, barca, Man utd etc did he?He wasn't rubbish, but he was nowhere near as good as people on here would have you believe, and left them completely in the shit. The signs were there that he was past it and would fail here.
2nd highest spenders in Europe, never got above top 6.
I'll leave you to do the maths.
Has no facts to back it up.2nd highest spenders in Europe when? I know he spent a few bob but hee surely didn't spend more than Chelsea, Madrid, barca, Man utd etc did he?
He spent more than I thought having checked mind. Saying that barca, Madrid, Man City and Man utd all spent more in the 4 year period he was at villa so they certainly weren't the second biggest spenders in Europe during that period.Has no facts to back it up.![]()
Who heard this remark then?SUNDERLAND’S training schedule under O’Neill involved far too many days off.
One training-ground staff member was heard to remark he saw one local press man at the training ground more than he did some of the players, which is surely not conducive with success at Premier League level.
Class way to operate these days.![]()
82 million net spend.He spent more than I thought having checked mind. Saying that barca, Madrid, Man City and Man utd all spent more in the 4 year period he was at villa so they certainly weren't the second biggest spenders in Europe during that period.
Who heard this remark then?Still awaiting something concrete to substantiate these Chinese whispers.
I think we have to apply Occam's razor here. The summer business was undoubtedly his own and the evidence suggests that the January ones were too. Now he clearly took the hump in the last few weeks due to RDFs arrival but he entirely brought that on himself. Besides, why would we lionise a man who was willing to see the club relegated because he wanted to maintain a pet lip? His win percentage was good but that is almost entirely because of the half season when he arrived and before he dithered and blundered his way through two transfer windows. The man was provided with the best opportunity to push on of any Safc regime in recent years and he failed. It's as simple as that.I know we have diametrically opposed views on O'Neill's time here mate but as I said earlier, statistically he's still our most successful PL manager since Reidy and until someone can categorically show me evidence that he wasn't undermined by the fella who had Short's ear at the time I'm happy to say he would have done ok here given time and no interference......but I accept that's not your take on things![]()
I was one of those who loved Martin and dearly wanted him here and to be the one to really succeed but in hindsight he came in half hearted and ill prepared. When finally realised that he couldn't change things around, even if he did have the time he was taking the Club toward another relegation....The biggest mistake was not Bring john Robertson on board with him...If he had , thing might have been so much different. Its funny that if felt the way that he obviously does about his time he why did he not go out and take another job straight away to prove people wrong?'If I'd been given half a chance at Sunderland, I'd have succeeded.'
As reported by George Caulkin in an article today.
Fair comment or rose tinted specs?
This is my belief. John Robertson was sorely missed by O'Neill just like Cloughy greatly missed Peter Taylor and was less successful as a result.No, some of his signings were baffling, they were mostly overpriced, mostly huffy or useless, O'Neill looked lost without his second in command, tactics were hopeless, we looked like we were playing for a 1-0 defeat at times. Some of the worst football I have ever watched at any level. Soul destroying. Martin you're past it at club level.