Is MoN right when he says


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The only time we've been safe with 8 games to go was under MON. People love to rewrite history on here and totally dismiss his era because of the lacklustre final months. Was plenty sparkle and support for him for his first 12 months here. Sess and Bendtner up front were quality under him. Danny Rose flourished too. O'Shea, Larsson and Brown were solid & Mig was class.
All of whom were players that were left to him. When given the chance to implement 'his methods' he spent £25m making us a demonstrably worse team than the one he inherited. MON got sacked because of his dreadful performance in the transfer market. And he completely deserved it.

He still has the highest win ratio of any manager during our current PL run so what does that say about those who preceded and followed him.......and there was nothing wrong at all with the football we played in his first season here. Before I condemn the man (and I did call for his dismissal during the second season) I'd really like to know just why his heart wasn't in it as you say. Was he undermined from above with the proposed implementation of a DOF system above him or was he just a washed up old has been......I'm not entirely convinced it was the latter.
It's too late to reply to this at length LA so I'll leave it at 'fuck off, man' :lol:;)
 
The only time we've been safe with 8 games to go was under MON. People love to rewrite history on here and totally dismiss his era because of the lacklustre final months. Was plenty sparkle and support for him for his first 12 months here. Sess and Bendtner up front were quality under him. Danny Rose flourished too. O'Shea, Larsson and Brown were solid & Mig was class.
Larsson in O'Neill's second season here was absolutely f***ing shite. Not helped by being played in a two man midfield with David Vaughan half the time mind.
 
The only time we've been safe with 8 games to go was under MON. People love to rewrite history on here and totally dismiss his era because of the lacklustre final months. Was plenty sparkle and support for him for his first 12 months here. Sess and Bendtner up front were quality under him. Danny Rose flourished too. O'Shea, Larsson and Brown were solid & Mig was class.

"The only time we've been safe with 8 games to go was under MoN" - full madone! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The first 12 months of MoN weren't class at all ... just the first 3 months. We didn't win in our last 8 league games of the 11/12 season (MoN months 4-6). And took this form into the start of 12/13. One win in the first 10 games when we soared above lacklustre to annihilate wigan 1-0 at home. Them were the days (MoN months 8 to 11). The glorious cup exit at Boro's hands - the only match I've ever not wanted us to equalise - we were so bad I just couldn't have taken extra time.

There is someone re-writing history ... sorry, but it's you marra.
 
I was desperate for him to come here but he was just another flash in the pan.

Two words were the final nail in his coffin.

Danny Graham.

He thought he knew best, he didn't.

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He was rubbish at villa & don't give that guff about him been a big Charlie Hurley fan

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I like MoN but he's nuts if he believes what he's saying. We are still paying for his transfer fuk ups the mess we have been in prior to BSA coming in I genuinely blame MoN for the majority of it.
 
All of whom were players that were left to him. When given the chance to implement 'his methods' he spent £25m making us a demonstrably worse team than the one he inherited. MON got sacked because of his dreadful performance in the transfer market. And he completely deserved it.


It's too late to reply to this at length LA so I'll leave it at 'fuck off, man' :lol:;)

I know we have diametrically opposed views on O'Neill's time here mate but as I said earlier, statistically he's still our most successful PL manager since Reidy and until someone can categorically show me evidence that he wasn't undermined by the fella who had Short's ear at the time I'm happy to say he would have done ok here given time and no interference......but I accept that's not your take on things ;)
 
Succeeded at securing relegation perhaps...

Damn you're right, if we had kept him we would have won the relegation that year.

I know we have diametrically opposed views on O'Neill's time here mate but as I said earlier, statistically he's still our most successful PL manager since Reidy and until someone can categorically show me evidence that he wasn't undermined by the fella who had Short's ear at the time I'm happy to say he would have done ok here given time and no interference......but I accept that's not your take on things ;)

Fuck the stats, it was actually better under Steve Bruce. At least there was a little excitement in games, that's for sure.
 
I know we have diametrically opposed views on O'Neill's time here mate but as I said earlier, statistically he's still our most successful PL manager since Reidy and until someone can categorically show me evidence that he wasn't undermined by the fella who had Short's ear at the time I'm happy to say he would have done ok here given time and no interference......but I accept that's not your take on things ;)
He spent a f***ing fortune here, close to £20m on two forwards we couldn't then give away man. I loved it when he signed but it was clear come the end his eye wasn't truly on the job for one reason or another. I'd say the money spent under mon is the biggest waste we've had and we've wasted a f***ing ton.
 
By far the biggest disappointment in my SAFC supporting life.

And there's been a few.

If he'd been given any more than half a chance he'd have taken us down. I love Roy Keane and usually agree with the stuff he comes out with but his crack about Short and O'Neill is bollocks of the highest order IMO.

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For someone who watches so much football you really have nee idea at times Hank... :lol:
 
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It was obvious MON was so far from being the right man. He had no clue abojut recruitment... would spunk big money on British dead-wood, played crap fossiled football and didn't even seem to be able to inspire his troops which is just about his only strength otherwise. The man was an utter catastrophy and would've gotten us down!
 
I'd say the money spent under mon is the biggest waste we've had and we've wasted a f***ing ton.

That's bollocks mind.....Keane spent a net £62m in two seasons largely on unmitigated shite and just total this lot up on players signed subsequent to O'Neill leaving.....Altidore, Giaccherini, Bridcutt, Buckley, Scocco, Mavrias, Karlsson, Roberge, Diakite, Gomez, Jones, Matthews, Vergini, Coates, Ba, Cabral, Rodwell, Alvarez, Lens......probably somewhere around £60m plus wages, agents fees, signing on fees etc.

So it was worse before he came and far worse after he left.......the club had a net spend of £18m during his tenancy and if Johnson hadn't been such an arsehole we'd still have some residual value, say £8m from that period.

It was obvious MON was so far from being the right man. He had no clue abojut recruitment... would spunk big money on British dead-wood, played crap fossiled football and didn't even seem to be able to inspire his troops which is just about his only strength otherwise. The man was an utter catastrophy and would've gotten us down!

So how bad have our other PL managers been when he has the best record statistically of the last 10 years.
 
That's bollocks mind.....Keane spent a net £62m in two seasons largely on unmitigated shite and just total this lot up on players signed subsequent to O'Neill leaving.....Altidore, Giaccherini, Bridcutt, Buckley, Scocco, Mavrias, Karlsson, Roberge, Diakite, Gomez, Jones, Matthews, Vergini, Coates, Ba, Cabral, Rodwell, Alvarez, Lens......probably somewhere around £60m plus wages, agents fees, signing on fees etc.

So it was worse before he came and far worse after he left.......the club had a net spend of £18m during his tenancy and if Johnson hadn't been such an arsehole we'd still have some residual value, say £8m from that period.



So how bad have our other PL managers been when he has the best record statistically of the last 10 years.

Thing is, Johnson was an arsehole.

O'Neill's main buys turned out to be expensive duds. Every single one of them. Take away the first few months and his management here was absolutely chronic.

He was taking us down and the fact that we got an improvement from an absolute lunatic like Di Canio speaks volumes about just how bad things were towards the end of his time here.
 
Thing is, Johnson was an arsehole.

O'Neill's main buys turned out to be expensive duds. Every single one of them. Take away the first few months and his management here was absolutely chronic.

He was taking us down and the fact that we got an improvement from an absolute lunatic like Di Canio speaks volumes about just how bad things were towards the end of his time here.

But statistically he is still the best of the last 10 years and wasted less money than those who preceded him and those who followed him. In essence defending ANY of them is a bit disingenuous as the club has by and large been a shambles during our current 10 year run but O'Neill's time here is at least a match for any of the others who tried their hand.
 
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