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Top effort, the fact Johnson has been getting similar results as Parky with much fewer options to pick from is worth remembering, Hume has been a massive loss for us imo.

Similar?

Parkinson 13 games at 1.77 points per game that would have us 6th but right up there within 3 points of Hull with a game in hand

or

Johnson 12 games at 1.42 points per game that woukld have us 13th

Its not really similar tbf
 
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Winter period, shit pitches, fixture pile up, Covid.
Potentially training methods but a lot came a week or two after arriving. It won't have intensified that much and the other above factors will have contributed. There is a stark contrast and shows the difficulty for Johnson in trying to change the philosophy to a more attacking style. Several disruptions to the squad and not enough time in between games to rectify and put his ideas across.

This is why I'm relatively calm about the displays on the pitch. On the face of it there appears to be little to no improvement as a team from Parkinson. (Individually however, he's working wonders with Wyke) Its clear to me however that there are extenuating circumstances to that and it won't be until next season when we can start to properly evaluate Johnson.

In terms of xG performance there is very little. Parkinson averaged an xGF of 1.59 and and xGA of 0.96 pg. Johnson, prior to Tuesday, was averaging 1.47 xGF and 1.03 xGA. However, Parkinson's xG was a lot more consistent with actual goals pg than Johnson has been.
 
Honestly reckon Hume is critical to us. In the Parky era he was undoubtedly our most important attacking player. He's been pretty much completely denied to Johnson. There's lots of faffing that Johnson isn't helping himself with, but the injuries he's had to deal with shouldn't be ignored - and correlation isn't necessary causation when it comes to LJ arriving and our recent injury issues

Hume will be playing left back. He wont be as effective going forward and the weaker part of his game will be exposed more but it will still be good to get him back.
 
I've mapped out injuries and fitness issues over the course of this season.

Green = Not injured
Orange - Assumed not match fit. If a player is injured then only returns to the bench then player would be classed as not match fit (i.e O'Nien being on the bench and Johnson confirming he wasn't fit enough to start). If a player is injured and comes straight back into the first 11 he is class as match fit on his return.
Red - Injured. Player injured and unavailable for selection.

Blue Line indicates when Johnson was appointed.

There has been some talk that Parkinson had the same injury problems as what Johnson has had. Parkinson's biggest 'crisis' was for 2 games where Xhemalji, Willis, Gooch and O,Brien were all out at the same time. Xhemalji hadn't started a league game for us and O'Brien wasn't featuring in the side at prior to that so 2 players were missing from the starting line up. Parkinson won 0 of them. O'Nien being played at CB has also been put forward as an example of Parkinson's injury problems. Parkinson chose to play O'Nien CB ahead of Sanderson when Flanagan was suspended, then continued to play him ahead of Flanagan and Sanderson. This was not due to injuries.

In comparison Johnson has had constant injury problems. Players who were always first names on the team sheet under Parkinson (Gooch, Willis, Hume, O'Nien and Wyke) were either injured when Johnson arrived, or were injured in that first Wigan game then Flanagan broke his foot shortly after. Covid followed that and then a hernia forced his only fit right back out. His last two games are the only games he's had 2 (or less) first team players out (if not including Xhemalji, Stewart and Winchester as none have yet featured regularly in the side).

We are starting to see players now come back to fitness with the exceptions of Xhemalji (not featured all season anyway), Hume (one of our most important players and now Willis so we should begin to see some improvements and consistency in performances.



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Good effort mate
 
I've mapped out injuries and fitness issues over the course of this season.

Green = Not injured
Orange - Assumed not match fit. If a player is injured then only returns to the bench then player would be classed as not match fit (i.e O'Nien being on the bench and Johnson confirming he wasn't fit enough to start). If a player is injured and comes straight back into the first 11 he is class as match fit on his return.
Red - Injured. Player injured and unavailable for selection.

Blue Line indicates when Johnson was appointed.

There has been some talk that Parkinson had the same injury problems as what Johnson has had. Parkinson's biggest 'crisis' was for 2 games where Xhemalji, Willis, Gooch and O,Brien were all out at the same time. Xhemalji hadn't started a league game for us and O'Brien wasn't featuring in the side at prior to that so 2 players were missing from the starting line up. Parkinson won 0 of them. O'Nien being played at CB has also been put forward as an example of Parkinson's injury problems. Parkinson chose to play O'Nien CB ahead of Sanderson when Flanagan was suspended, then continued to play him ahead of Flanagan and Sanderson. This was not due to injuries.

In comparison Johnson has had constant injury problems. Players who were always first names on the team sheet under Parkinson (Gooch, Willis, Hume, O'Nien and Wyke) were either injured when Johnson arrived, or were injured in that first Wigan game then Flanagan broke his foot shortly after. Covid followed that and then a hernia forced his only fit right back out. His last two games are the only games he's had 2 (or less) first team players out (if not including Xhemalji, Stewart and Winchester as none have yet featured regularly in the side).

We are starting to see players now come back to fitness with the exceptions of Xhemalji (not featured all season anyway), Hume (one of our most important players and now Willis so we should begin to see some improvements and consistency in performances.



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And the winner of 'I've got far too much time on my hands in lockdown' is...................
 
Similar?

Parkinson 13 games at 1.77 points per game that would have us 6th but right up there within 3 points of Hull with a game in hand

or

Johnson 12 games at 1.42 points per game that woukld have us 13th

Its not really similar tbf

Or 1ppg when he didn't have Willis and Gooch available to play. Same as Johnson ;)
 
Hume will be playing left back. He wont be as effective going forward and the weaker part of his game will be exposed more but it will still be good to get him back.
I dunno. He's looking for more effective attacking from his fullbacks and, thus far, he's had nowt from his left backs. I reckon a genuine pacy threat down that lhs would be transformative for SAFC right now - even more so if he tweaks his formation a bit
 
In terms of xG performance there is very little. Parkinson averaged an xGF of 1.59 and and xGA of 0.96 pg. Johnson, prior to Tuesday, was averaging 1.47 xGF and 1.03 xGA. However, Parkinson's xG was a lot more consistent with actual goals pg than Johnson has been.
Agree. Was interested to note that the change to 4 at the back hasn't really changed our defensive performance in terms of quality/volume of chances conceded. All that has happened is that we're conceding more - largely due to individual errors.
 
:lol:

It should also be mentioned that Johnson has had 9 of the bottom 12 as opponents in his time here. The type of games our larger squad should have been able to manage against tbf

Yes that's a fair point as well. Possibly raises the question as to why Parkinson didn't play Sanderson or Diamond against lower half teams for example, or rested Hume more often playing MacFadzean against them, possibly avoiding the hamstring injury that has put him out the rest of the season.
 
Yes that's a fair point as well. Possibly raises the question as to why Parkinson didn't play Sanderson or Diamond against lower half teams for example, or rested Hume more often playing MacFadzean against them, possibly avoiding the hamstring injury that has put him out the rest of the season.

I think McFadzean only signed for Sunderland shortly before Parkinson was sacked. Most teams are going to have a cohort of their best players that will play almost every game and Hume was one of those. He was fit, probably our best player and no reason for him to be rested in the first 3 months of the season. That said i think failure to use his squad more is a genuine and fair criticism of the previous manager.
 
I think McFadzean only signed for Sunderland shortly before Parkinson was sacked. Most teams are going to have a cohort of their best players that will play almost every game and Hume was one of those. He was fit, probably our best player and no reason for him to be rested in the first 3 months of the season. That said i think failure to use his squad more is a genuine and fair criticism of the previous manager.

Yeah, I don't disagree with that tbf. Whilst this thread obviously has a comparison between the managers it's intent is not to determine who has done the best (the 1ppg post was tongue in cheek). More to highlight mitigating circumstances, and more importantly, to add some perspective to factors that will no doubt have affected his (or any any manager tbf) overall performance up until now. Factors which are now easing enough to a degree where performances/results should improve. At which point it will be easier to give a much more balanced determination of actual overall performance between the two. Jury is still out for me.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if most clubs have had the bulk of injuries in December and onwards. Season started in October and its been two games a week with fatigue setting in perhaps. Big Sam kept everyone fit wih his back up team and you could the difference on the pitch too, with players having a sustained run in the side. In particular Watmore and Borini. Moyes obliterated that from day one.
 
Similar?

Parkinson 13 games at 1.77 points per game that would have us 6th but right up there within 3 points of Hull with a game in hand

or

Johnson 12 games at 1.42 points per game that woukld have us 13th

Its not really similar tbf

do you ever wonder why you’re the only poster who has made it their entire reason for living to defend Parkinson?

he was shit and you were wrong, just admit it and give up.
 
do you ever wonder why you’re the only poster who has made it their entire reason for living to defend Parkinson?

he was shit and you were wrong, just admit it and give up.
As long as I get ill thought out replies and it drags the likes of you out of the woodwork I’ll keep going mate.
Anyway sacked after 54 points from his last 29 games. Do you expect this manager to do as well from his next 29? I bet he doesn’t get anywhere near as much stick with a poorer record. I notice loads of fans who were slagging Parkinson off to high heaven now have lower expectations. Well see what next year brings etc.
 
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I've mapped out injuries and fitness issues over the course of this season.

Green = Not injured
Orange - Assumed not match fit. If a player is injured then only returns to the bench then player would be classed as not match fit (i.e O'Nien being on the bench and Johnson confirming he wasn't fit enough to start). If a player is injured and comes straight back into the first 11 he is class as match fit on his return.
Red - Injured. Player injured and unavailable for selection.

Blue Line indicates when Johnson was appointed.

There has been some talk that Parkinson had the same injury problems as what Johnson has had. Parkinson's biggest 'crisis' was for 2 games where Xhemalji, Willis, Gooch and O,Brien were all out at the same time. Xhemalji hadn't started a league game for us and O'Brien wasn't featuring in the side at prior to that so 2 players were missing from the starting line up. Parkinson won 0 of them. O'Nien being played at CB has also been put forward as an example of Parkinson's injury problems. Parkinson chose to play O'Nien CB ahead of Sanderson when Flanagan was suspended, then continued to play him ahead of Flanagan and Sanderson. This was not due to injuries.

In comparison Johnson has had constant injury problems. Players who were always first names on the team sheet under Parkinson (Gooch, Willis, Hume, O'Nien and Wyke) were either injured when Johnson arrived, or were injured in that first Wigan game then Flanagan broke his foot shortly after. Covid followed that and then a hernia forced his only fit right back out. His last two games are the only games he's had 2 (or less) first team players out (if not including Xhemalji, Stewart and Winchester as none have yet featured regularly in the side).

We are starting to see players now come back to fitness with the exceptions of Xhemalji (not featured all season anyway), Hume (one of our most important players and now Willis so we should begin to see some improvements and consistency in performances.



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Does this include the coronavirus outbreak?
 
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