I'm so glad I didn't vote for these loons....


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Every business advertises to make themselves known. They don't force anyone to give them custom...
Correct. Bollocks to common sense or morality. Let's set up an advertising agency for Nazis and drug dealers. Think of the money we will make.
Bugger the morality.

Would you by any chance be a Capitalist?
 
It is though. It's hours later and you still haven't acknowledged any of the truths that make your position ridiculous; most basic being that gambling addiction ruins lives and that footy advertising successfully targets vulnerable markets.

If you're aware that stopping drinks marketing has reduced that life-ruining addiction, which is well evidenced, then you should have put forward a reason why you think that ban is wrong (you haven't) or explained why you think a gambling ban is any different (you haven't).

All you've done is claim you're impervious to marketing, which is impressive if 100% accurate, but insanely unlikely if you're a human.

And that's come about recently? :confused: I have merely said that targeting shirt sponsorships is not going to help solve the problem.

As far s drinking is concerned... would you not agree that pricing has probably had a huge impact and the fact we are living through hard financial times, in which most people on low to middle incomes have had to cut their cloth accordingly. I know I have. I only get so much spending money a month, so I'm not going to piss it all up the wall.

If I want something that bad, I go and look for it myself, I don't give a shiny shite what advertisements are put in front of me.

I have. I hadn't heard of them until they sponsored us. I've self excluded from so many gambling sites that hearing of a new one was just the trigger I needed to sign up.

I've since self excluded from the dafabet account.

Fair enough mate... That's One!
 
I'm a bit jaundiced to the whole situation but I've come to the conclusion that sport only exists as a vehicle for generating income through advertising for the broadcaster and gambling companies.
Nearly all sports were played before TV, I see your argument but you could use the same one for any tv or film production...advertisements all over
 
Jesus i've just opened a betting account... wonder why that happened.
Probably the same reason im eating this Big Mac.
I am so weak minded.

:lol: exactly mate. Well Tom Watson thinks you're very naughty!

Why do they spend millions of pounds on advertising if it has no effect then?
:rolleyes: this again?

Correct. Bollocks to common sense or morality. Let's set up an advertising agency for Nazis and drug dealers. Think of the money we will make.
Bugger the morality.

Would you by any chance be a Capitalist?

No, not at all... I'm proper ACDC when it comes to the two sides.... And your analogy is bonkers...
 
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I'd bet my house Softcock Corbyn would make another u-turn at the first whiff of power.
UKIPer alert - you enjoying 'aving your country back?
You enjoying turning a blind eye to Amazon and Starbucks paying next to no tax while we focus on cutting disability benefits and hounding out hardworking Polish chicken factory workers... you having fun watching none of that really impacting your life but enjoying it all the same?
 
UKIPer alert - you enjoying 'aving your country back?
You enjoying turning a blind eye to Amazon and Starbucks paying next to no tax while we focus on cutting disability benefits and hounding out hardworking Polish chicken factory workers... you having fun watching none of that really impacting your life but enjoying it all the same?

As unpalatable as it is, it's not a predominant UK issue. The EU have encouraged such companies to come and play games to underfund the tax man!
 
Nearly all sports were played before TV, I see your argument but you could use the same one for any tv or film production...advertisements all over
Straight out of wiki, but what a depressing read this is

The competition formed as the FA Premier League on 20 February 1992 following the decision of clubs in the Football League First Division to break away from the Football League, which was founded in 1888, and take advantage of a lucrative television rights deal.[2] The deal was worth £1 billion a year domestically as of 2013–14, with BSkyB andBT Group securing the domestic rights to broadcast 116 and 38 games respectively.[3]The league generates €2.2 billion per year in domestic and international television rights.[4]In 2014-15, teams were apportioned revenues of £1,600 million,[5] rising sharply to £2,400 million in 2016-17.[6]

The Premier League is the most-watched sports league in the world, broadcast in 212 territories to 643 million homes and a potential TV audience of 4.7 billion people.[7]In the 2014–15 season, the average Premier League match attendance exceeded 36,000,[8]second highest of any professional football league behind the Bundesliga's 43,500.[9]Most stadium occupancies are near capacity.[10] The Premier League ranks third in the UEFA coefficients of leagues based on performances in European competitions over the past five seasons.[11]

While 49 clubs have competed since the inception of the Premier League in 1992, only six have won the title: Manchester United (13),Chelsea (5), Arsenal (3), Manchester City (2),Blackburn Rovers (1) and Leicester City (1). The current champions are Chelsea, who secured the 2016–17 title in early May 2017.
 
And that's come about recently? :confused: I have merely said that targeting shirt sponsorships is not going to help solve the problem.

As far s drinking is concerned... would you not agree that pricing has probably had a huge impact and the fact we are living through hard financial times, in which most people on low to middle incomes have had to cut their cloth accordingly. I know I have. I only get so much spending money a month, so I'm not going to piss it all up the wall.

If I want something that bad, I go and look for it myself, I don't give a shiny shite what advertisements are put in front of me.
You've just done exactly what I've mentioned you doing, again, in response to me pointing out you keep doing it. You're completely oblivious to the fact that football shirt sponsorship does directly lead to life-ruining addiction, because it entirely ruins your point.

Instead, you again go back to talking about yourself, which was never the issue in the first place, but since we're on it; you're f***ing deluded if you think advertising doesn't affect you. But that's part of why they're so effective so I don't feel badly towards you for that.
 
It's the fundamental question that you are unable to answer. It undermines your entire argument.

My argument is that politicians are wading with a solution to solve a problem, that will not solve a problem, which is only a problem for a minority of the countries population. Why lay the blame at football clubs shirt sponsorship deals.

Thats because you have loads of spare money now that you've stopped Investing in Africa
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You've just done exactly what I've mentioned you doing, again, in response to me pointing out you keep doing it. You're completely oblivious to the fact that football shirt sponsorship does directly lead to life-ruining addiction, because it entirely ruins your point.

Instead, you again go back to talking about yourself, which was never the issue in the first place, but since we're on it; you're f***ing deluded if you think advertising doesn't affect you. But that's part of why they're so effective so I don't feel badly towards you for that.

You mentioned me, talking about me, on my post, when I posted it...

How does a football shirt alone cause a UK wide gambling epidemic? You're missing my point.
 
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My argument is that politicians are wading with a solution to solve a problem, that will not solve a problem, which is only a problem for a minority of the countries population. Why lay the blame at football clubs shirt sponsorship deals.
It may not be a solution - same as with cigarettes etc. If they truly wanted to stop smoking they could ban them or regulate them through pharmacy only sales or something like that.
However, despite it not being a solution it's hard to argue that stopping advertising them via sports is anything other than a positive step.
Same with gambling why would anyone be against rules that seek to limit exposure to gambling.
 
It may not be a solution - same as with cigarettes etc. If they truly wanted to stop smoking they could ban them or regulate them through pharmacy only sales or something like that.
However, despite it not being a solution it's hard to argue that stopping advertising them via sports is anything other than a positive step.
Same with gambling why would anyone be against rules that seek to limit exposure to gambling.

Fair enough, I accept and respect everyones opinions on this, doesn't mean I agree like, but hey ho... ;)
 
You mentioned me, talking about me, on my post, when I posted it...

How does a football shirt alone cause a UK wide gambling epidemic? You're missing my point.

It alone doesn't. Is it a major factor? Yes. Personally I literally would never have heard of Dafabet still if they weren't a football sponsor. Same way I knew Chang before I ever went to Thailand. The clearest indication of how effective it is is the sheer money being thrown at it; millions per club per season, and I bet you can name at least 5 clubs sponsored by betting companies, if not more. We had the f***ing Dafabet cup ffs.

It's obviously not the only source of gambling advertising, but it is a huge one. That's why it's a headline in an article you've read. I'd be amazed if Corbyn didn't want stricter advertising guidelines across the board where addiction is concerned - I like that, you probably hate it, but that's a different conversation entirely. Football is huge in this country, I'm not going to do your reading for you but the numbers are all out there plain to see, that's why they're discussing it.
 
It alone doesn't. Is it a major factor? Yes. Personally I literally would never have heard of Dafabet still if they weren't a football sponsor. Same way I knew Chang before I ever went to Thailand. The clearest indication of how effective it is is the sheer money being thrown at it; millions per club per season, and I bet you can name at least 5 clubs sponsored by betting companies, if not more. We had the f***ing Dafabet cup ffs.

It's obviously not the only source of gambling advertising, but it is a huge one. That's why it's a headline in an article you've read. I'd be amazed if Corbyn didn't want stricter advertising guidelines across the board where addiction is concerned - I like that, you probably hate it, but that's a different conversation entirely. Football is huge in this country, I'm not going to do your reading for you but the numbers are all out there plain to see, that's why they're discussing it.

I honestly couldn't and that's the truth, that's how much interest I take in shirt sponsors.

However, see my last post.
 
I honestly couldn't and that's the truth, that's how much interest I take in shirt sponsors.

However, see my last post.
Yep fair do's, no beef. (Corbyn's still a don mind)
I'm the same, ignore that wank as best I can, some folk are easy pickings though.
 
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