I'm so glad I didn't vote for these loons....


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i use my brain and choose what i use.

in fact the more advertising the less likely I am to purchase, especially people pushing energy deals etc.

if i want a bet, I'll have one but then i suppose its down to having an individual responsibility.

We are all affected by advertising, Im sure you buy Adidas/Nike trainers, particular brands of clothes etc. Why do we do that, because we have individually assessed their quality and pricing? Like fuck, because the advertising has had a massive influence on a huge swathe of our society.
 
We are all affected by advertising, Im sure you buy Adidas/Nike trainers, particular brands of clothes etc. Why do we do that, because we have individually assessed their quality and pricing? Like fuck, because the advertising has had a massive influence on a huge swathe of our society.

Sports brand advertising is a massive thing when it comes to kids, maybe more than adults, trust me I've got 4 teen or older now and if I'd ever bought them anything other than Adidas or Nike gear they would have hated me.
 
Seems a fairly logical idea to me, adverts in the game target young lads even if the companies don't intend to. Gambling is an evil temptation to a lot of people, just like booze, tabs and gear on a weekend.

Who saves their gear for a f***ing weekend ffs?
 
It's lunacy to say that advertising doesn't have any effect. Overtly and subliminally it alters the perception of a product.

Using the loan companies as an example:

You're on the look out for a loan; who do you choose?

  • The one you've never heard of which sounds too good to be true?

  • Or the one, offering exactly the same terms and conditions, whose name you've seen splashed all over a prominent sports team's shirts?

I mean, it's a no-brainer. Surely the second one has to be more legit, more genuine and more trustworthy because surely such a well-known sports organisation would refuse to have anything to do with such a company if they weren't any of those things. That's why they pay millions to have their names on Premiership club shirts. It's all about perception of the product.

Another example are Volvo cars. Most older people in this country, if asked, would describe them as tough, solid, reliable workhorses albeit a bit bland and boring. Because that's how they were originally marketed here. So that's what people here bought them for.

Yet in America and most other parts of Europe and the rest of the world, they were marketed, and are regarded, as luxury, up-market vehicles to rival the likes of BMW and Jaguar. So that's the main reason Americans and the rest of the world buy them.

Exactly the same cars here and in America and the rest of the world - just different marketing.

Volvo have changed tack in recent years and are now pushing their UK range as a quality alternative to the mainstream German marques. Be interesting to see how they are regarded here in the UK 15-20 years down the line.
 
Gambling replaced the other vices that were banned from advertising. It was always going to lead to problems.
 
It's bonkers.... It won't improve the situation one iota.

Couldn't disagree more. It's far from bonkers. Even a minor improvement is a huge step forward.

As I type this the advert below this box is for Heart Bingo.

It's f***ing shit.
 
It's lunacy to say that advertising doesn't have any effect. Overtly and subliminally it alters the perception of a product.

Using the loan companies as an example:

You're on the look out for a loan; who do you choose?

  • The one you've never heard of which sounds too good to be true?

  • Or the one, offering exactly the same terms and conditions, whose name you've seen splashed all over a prominent sports team's shirts?

I mean, it's a no-brainer. Surely the second one has to be more legit, more genuine and more trustworthy because surely such a well-known sports organisation would refuse to have anything to do with such a company if they weren't any of those things. That's why they pay millions to have their names on Premiership club shirts. It's all about perception of the product.

Another example are Volvo cars. Most older people in this country, if asked, would describe them as tough, solid, reliable workhorses albeit a bit bland and boring. Because that's how they were originally marketed here. So that's what people here bought them for.

Yet in America and most other parts of Europe and the rest of the world, they were marketed, and are regarded, as luxury, up-market vehicles to rival the likes of BMW and Jaguar. So that's the main reason Americans and the rest of the world buy them.

Exactly the same cars here and in America and the rest of the world - just different marketing.

Volvo have changed tack in recent years and are now pushing their UK range as a quality alternative to the mainstream German marques. Be interesting to see how they are regarded here in the UK 15-20 years down the line.
My V40 D2 is amazing - I always thought Volvos were for older gadgies but with built-in wifi and an integral DVD player in the infotainment us old gadgies are alreet!
 
Perhaps we should then ban McDonalds and Coca Cola sponsoring football because of their devastating impact on obesity. What about Chevrolet because of the devastating impact of fuel emissions on the planet's climate? Then we could go after American Express because easy credit has a devastating impact on those who can afford it least.

I sympathise with those whose lives have been ruined by gambling but I tend to prefer the government to order me around as little as possible. Much better for us to put pressure on our clubs if we don't like what they're doing. Bottom up, rather than top down.
 
Just look at the sports that online companies and pay day loan companies to target. Football, darts, snooker, horse racing and boxing. I don't think they sponsor many cricket or rugby teams/events? Look at the type of TV shows they sponsor. So they know their target audience.
 
Aye that's why companies spend millions on shirt sponsors, because they have no effect whatsoever.

It's a minority in this country who have gambling problems, as in... can't stop gambling more than they can afford.

I don't think shirt sponsorships have had any major impact on this. If you want to really help people with a gambling addiction, you'd have to ban it completely from society, but then you'll have the problem of it all going underground.

I'm starting to think you can't have an opinion on here.

Absolutely brilliant idea, anyone with half a brain can see that having all this betting site advertising can only be bad news, especially now lads can spunk. their wages away with one click on their phone. It's not about yourself Op, it's about society in general, all gambling and loan shark advertising should be banned and it will be eventually.

And here lies the problem with this... Stupid half arsed politicians narrowing it all down to one area, instead of talking about a blanket ban.
 
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We are all affected by advertising, Im sure you buy Adidas/Nike trainers, particular brands of clothes etc. Why do we do that, because we have individually assessed their quality and pricing? Like fuck, because the advertising has had a massive influence on a huge swathe of our society.
Never bought trainers for about 20 years, I don't care who makes the clothes as long as they fit and are reasonably priced. I really don't take notice of product propaganda, other than buying something which is the opposite of an advertisement.
 
I'm not a Labour voter but would have no issue with betting companies being prevented from advertising on strips. I know they don't display the logos on kids strips but kids still see it and all of the many betting adverts on tele during matches and it's bound to lead some down the path of gambling which, as we know, can be destructive for certain people.

Poke peoples eyes out..

What if they hear adverts on radio or TV? :neutral:
 
Never bought trainers for about 20 years, I don't care who makes the clothes as long as they fit and are reasonably priced. I really don't take notice of product propaganda, other than buying something which is the opposite of an advertisement.

This^

Perhaps we should then ban McDonalds and Coca Cola sponsoring football because of their devastating impact on obesity. What about Chevrolet because of the devastating impact of fuel emissions on the planet's climate? Then we could go after American Express because easy credit has a devastating impact on those who can afford it least.

I sympathise with those whose lives have been ruined by gambling but I tend to prefer the government to order me around as little as possible. Much better for us to put pressure on our clubs if we don't like what they're doing. Bottom up, rather than top down.

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Gambling replaced the other vices that were banned from advertising. It was always going to lead to problems.
This. If people have an addictive personality then they will find something to satisfy their cravings. I don't see that allowing shirt advertising is going to cause more gambling problems. If the government (or the opposition) were that concerned then they could look at the rules around allowing so many onlne gambling portals and the ease of use for any casual gambler to bet whilst sitting on the toilet..............then again, that would be removing a huge taxable cash cow for them
 
Perhaps we should then ban McDonalds and Coca Cola sponsoring football because of their devastating impact on obesity. What about Chevrolet because of the devastating impact of fuel emissions on the planet's climate? Then we could go after American Express because easy credit has a devastating impact on those who can afford it least.

I sympathise with those whose lives have been ruined by gambling but I tend to prefer the government to order me around as little as possible. Much better for us to put pressure on our clubs if we don't like what they're doing. Bottom up, rather than top down.
They're not ordering you around, they're pushing gambling out of the mainstream. You're more than welcome to do it, but it should rest in the same area of the public consciousness as smoking and drinking, as it can be just as dangerous as both.

I think you'd agree that there's been a veritable explosion of gambling advertising in the past few years, and even as a gambler it strikes me as a load of vultures circling prey.
 
Reet... everyone come clean... how many of you have opened a Dafabet account since they started sponsoring us?

Everyone answer truthfully!

I haven't...!
 
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