I'm hearing some things which don't bode well for our season..


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We all can see this is different - even worse than all the other times. We are absolutely doomed with Moyes at the helm.
They don't want to play for him at all - it's obvious.

To be fair it would be a struggle for them even if they were inspired and busting a gut - but we're not even in a relegation fight at the moment - we're in a relegation capitulation..
 
Kone must be gutted. He wanted away, but got a payrise and obviously moyes must have given some blarney about the plans.
He's gone from being a big player in a tight defensive unit to a couldnt give a shiney shite player
Defoe I reckon must be wondering what has happened so quickly.
Crying shame and it will get worse before it gets better with this bloke
 
I think this is just another nail in Moyes coffin if true.

The split and divide is obviously being caused by him. Some players must be on board whilst others (probably the majority) are not.

The sooner he fucks off the better, he is an absolute walking disaster.
 
Be afraid...be very afraid! Looking at the interviews after the game on sky which I recorded as was working at the time the game was on, Defoe doesn't look happy at all, his body language suggests all isn't what it seems despite him saying we are all working together and trying to put things right....but him saying that he didn't have the look of someone being truthful
 
Be afraid...be very afraid! Looking at the interviews after the game on sky which I recorded as was working at the time the game was on, Defoe doesn't look happy at all, his body language suggests all isn't what it seems despite him saying we are all working together and trying to put things right....but him saying that he didn't have the look of someone being truthful
I think Defoe is an honest professional. It'll be others but he's in the middle of it all.
 
I'd rather we ditched them type of players. They play for the club that pays them, not for themselves

To be fair almost every PL has players that fit that description and we've seen it with every single club...Moyes at Man U, Martinez at Everton, Garde at Villa, McClaren at the scum, Mr Dead at City and countless other examples over the years. Once the players no longer believe what the manager is saying to them it normally only ends one way.
 
Can't reveal source but there's in-fighting among players, others are behind schedule to return and the manager looks like a dead man walking apparently.

So it doesn't look good for any short or even medium term improvement. Looks like this may well be the year...we already have very little margin for error and from what I've heard it doesn't sound like a club where everyone is pulling in the same direction, and once that's gone there's little else.
Sounds good there mate.
 
To be fair almost every PL has players that fit that description and we've seen it with every single club...Moyes at Man U, Martinez at Everton, Garde at Villa, McClaren at the scum, Mr Dead at City and countless other examples over the years. Once the players no longer believe what the manager is saying to them it normally only ends one way.
Exactly. It's only human nature. If they ain't enjoying the job no matter how much you earn, then it's gonna head south.

I've changed jobs in the past for less money just to be happier.

He's constantly said we're in a relegation battle etc. Where's the motivation coming from ?
 
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