I'm hearing some things which don't bode well for our season..


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its us they play for the supporters ffs we pay towards paydays not the manager so when i here about not playing for manager what bull they play for us as well ..all that money each week and sum say they dont try for boss well sack them if they say this anyone else would be in a job ...got no problem having bad game ect but to say ...errr i wont play for moyes cos i dont like him ect what about us then .
 
Do you really think, that if we are relegated and go into administration, that Ellis won't have us subsisting on a league one budget for players and manager??

We could easily be in this same position next year, one league lower.

We all know the horror stories on how this can go... leeds, pompey, etc.

If we go into administration, Ellis won't be the owner.
 
Very eerily similarities between us and McLaren last season, the whole him saying judge us after 10 games well 6 points after 10 was shite, then it was judge us after 18 and by that time we all knew where we were headed.

Whether Moyes has lost the dressing room or not is not the main issue the main issue is the distinct lack of premier league quality in that squad. The horrific recruitment system, the serious mismanagement both on and off the field, losing money hand over fist despite the lucrative TV money pouring in. I have no doubt whatsoever where you will finish this season and it certainly isn't above the safety line. What happens after that is anyones guess but you certainly aren't in as healthy or stable position as we are now to mount a return. Many on here think the championship is a piece of piss and that your squad as it is now will romp that league. Some people are in for a very rude awakening

I agree. What seems to have gone in your favour whilst still being relegated is that you lot had sellable assets and recouped a large chunk of change back to help with the little rebuild you've had......us on the other hand.. if what looks like is going to happen to us we won't have that luxury of being able to sell what we have to help with new foundations as like you've mentioned looking through our squad its devoid of any really quality. It's looking bleaker by the minute and I just don't see a way out of the situation that's been building year or year, all the mistakes that have been made could have been fore seen if we'd had any sort of plan in place but the clown running the club hasn't got a clue what he's doing. It's catches everyone up eventually and it looks like its finally us this time.
 
I think this is just another nail in Moyes coffin if true.

The split and divide is obviously being caused by him. Some players must be on board whilst others (probably the majority) are not.

The sooner he fucks off the better, he is an absolute walking disaster.
If and when he does go, hopefully the whole lot of them go with him. All in it together. Not playing for the manager means not playing for the supporters. No amount of waving, tweets or shirts can make up for that.
 
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Based on what?

Just about every football administration going. You get the odd "pre-pack" where a company in administration sells its assets to a new company run by the same people, but that's increasingly regarded as unethical by insolvency practitioners. The usual situation is that a new bunch of investors get the assets at a nice discounted price. Could suit our Chinese friends down to the ground.
 
Just about every football administration going. You get the odd "pre-pack" where a company in administration sells its assets to a new company run by the same people, but that's increasingly regarded as unethical by insolvency practitioners. The usual situation is that a new bunch of investors get the assets at a nice discounted price. Could suit our Chinese friends down to the ground.

ok - yeah... i thought you were implying we'd be sold before then.
 
I've heard similar but more to do with manager vs certain group of players

Wish Moyes would just drop the players he knows are being awkward and play only players with right attitude. Might be hard to get 11 players but I would respect Moyes more if he just blew the whole thing wide open.

Moyes should just come out and name and shame the lot of them that has the problem with him.......!
 
its us they play for the supporters ffs we pay towards paydays not the manager so when i here about not playing for manager what bull they play for us as well ..all that money each week and sum say they dont try for boss well sack them if they say this anyone else would be in a job ...got no problem having bad game ect but to say ...errr i wont play for moyes cos i dont like him ect what about us then .
Agreed, fucks me off this. Have they no professional pride ffs and they get paid handsomely for basically underperforming massively in their job.
 
Just about every football administration going. You get the odd "pre-pack" where a company in administration sells its assets to a new company run by the same people, but that's increasingly regarded as unethical by insolvency practitioners. The usual situation is that a new bunch of investors get the assets at a nice discounted price. Could suit our Chinese friends down to the ground.

Heh. Pre packs regarded as unethical by IPs?

:lol::lol:
 
This all sounds very similar to the Di canio situation.

Half the fans say peddle him as players hate him
Other half saying the players are absolute bastards and should play at 100% no matter who manager is.

What I do know is that the results improved once Di Canio left.
 
These players need to be aware that they aren't just letting David Moyes down they're letting us down. They need to stop being sulky bastards and start being professional which is what they are handsomely paid for. Whoever is not pulling his weight should be shipped out Asap. Fact is, they'll only do it again if they don't like the next manager.
Unfortunately they couldn't give a fuck if they're letting us down though. Badge kissing and silly hash tags to get us onside when in reality 99% of them don't care about anything other than the obscene amount of money they earn.
 
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