I just don't get this vitriol toward Coleman...


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I'll judge a manager when he's given time build his own squad, not inheriting past managers failures. Especially one who was handed an extremely poor squad and given not a single penny to improve it. We're heading to league 1 because of the owner and his disastrous appointments especially above manager, nor because of Coleman. And got lucky with Wales. :lol: fuck off
 
I still think he has been out of the market too long, I was expecting him to get in some cheap foreigners that he might have faced while on wales duty. Some gem no one has heard of from Slovakia or something alike. He has been poor in the transfer market, that mcburnie has 1 in 2 for Barnsley, we were linked with him, a striker like that would have made all the difference for us.
I don’t think I expected him to pick up internationals from his days as Wales manager.
If I recall rightly we were in for McBurnie, he chose Barnsley over us. No idea why, money, fee, who knows. But without knowing that do we blame Coleman or the higerarchy.
 
I don’t think I expected him to pick up internationals from his days as Wales manager.
If I recall rightly we were in for McBurnie, he chose Barnsley over us. No idea why, money, fee, who knows. But without knowing that do we blame Coleman or the higerarchy.
Both?
 
I agree, his stock was high at the time and it's possible he could have got a premier league job. It was a bit of a coup getting him, but thinking we could have attracted Warnock is fanciful @Fetch Fletch

Coleman stock was high and that made him a very attractive proposition for us and an appointment I was happy with.

I think he’ll get us promoted next season.
 
It's not sensible at all, he could have 'gone anywhere' really, anywhere aye? There's a reason he's heading to League One with us, he's a poor club manager who got fortunate with Wales.

There is no vitrol at all either, he's just piss poor and is entitled to criticism. He could have at least kept us in the division and he's failed miserably.
He hasnt had a fair chance - he hasn't even met the owner. The support he has been given amounts to zero and to top it off the players he has inherited are garbage. Who in your opinion could have done better under those circumstances?
 
I don’t think I expected him to pick up internationals from his days as Wales manager.
If I recall rightly we were in for McBurnie, he chose Barnsley over us. No idea why, money, fee, who knows. But without knowing that do we blame Coleman or the higerarchy.

Considering we couldn’t get Andy Lonergan, a third choice ageing keeper, I think the answer may be clear
 
Coleman stock was high and that made him a very attractive proposition for us and an appointment I was happy with.

I think he’ll get us promoted next season.
I know we all said this year but.. if this sale does go through and the manager is allowed to realistically target players it could be a cracking season. This relegation must come with the caveat of change. If it does, then long term good will come from it
 
FFS he could have gone anywhere. He had zero to spend in the transfer window and it really looks like the players are actually responding in the last 4 or 5 games. Next season in league one he is exactly the kind of manager we need...a "big" name and a motivator. The players we will have next season (minus the big ego twats who will go, thank fuck) will hopefully respond to someone who has actually played and managed at a level way above League 1. Get behind him.....I can't believe I'm posting this as I'm normally a right miserable twat.
What the fuck is in your gin? Never thought I’d see the day.
 
Says who like?

He would have been. His stock was high. He certainly would have been in contention or mentioned for each of those jobs. Look at who got the Stoke and West Brom jobs. To think Coleman wouldn’t have been considered, given his standing at the time, is daft

I know we all said this year but.. if this sale does go through and the manager is allowed to realistically target players it could be a cracking season. This relegation must come with the caveat of change. If it does, then long term good will come from it

I know I certainly didn’t :lol:
 
Coleman stock was high and that made him a very attractive proposition for us and an appointment I was happy with.

I think he’ll get us promoted next season.
His stock was high, artificially imo, due to his success with Wales (which basically was down to Bale ) . His CV wasn't suited to a club battling relegation from the championship.

if he stays next season, he needs to deliver automatic promotion. Anything less will be failure.
 
Played well the last 4 or 5 games. With a goal keeper we would have stayed up. I back him to take us up next season

But it is the 10 before that which were the killer, picking up just 3 points from 10 games with most of the players that have done ok these past 4 or 5 games. If we'd literally taken an extra 5 points from those, say 2W 2D 6L, not 0W 3D 7L (which would have still been poor), then we'd have been fairly likely to stay up. As it is, we're heading back to the 3rd tier and it will be at least a year just to get back to the league we are currently in.

He's been very poor overall and had more than enough time to keep us up.
 
McNair looked really good today, even with his injury record someone will come in for him, he will play in the premier league again if he can keep fit.

Asoro and maja are young and raw but will probably make it at least in the championship.

Love played a superb ball through to fletcher today, looked ok but he needs to improve a lot with letting crosses into the box. Not sure about him.

Honeyman, poor first touch, weak, huffs and puffs, 3rd division player.

Cattermole, played alright today but his legs have gone, can’t get there like he used to when closing down and it has killed his game. Not his fault his legs have gone through injury though.

I think the rest will be gone anyway so it doesn’t matter about them

McNair looked poor in the Prem for us but he was probably never fit and in a poor team.

I just hope that these new owners appear from somewhere and convince the likes of McNair, watmore, gooch, asoro, maja to at least give us one more year in L1. Think we’d only need an average keeper and a couple of decent CBs and we should have enough to get straight back up. I know people said the same about this season, but dropping down a league might help us in ridding the club of the weak losing mentality we’ve had the last few years.

If Short does end up staying I wouldn’t blame any player for leaving. Under him we’re an absolute basket case of a club.
 
He is an utterly shit manager, his track record tells you nothing else. Over his entire management career he has maybe 1 reasonable season with Fulham and fluked his way through an international competition.

That said, despite all of his shortcomings (of which there are plenty), he has been dealt a shit hand. The club is rotten to the core which includes a lot of the fans who call for a new manager every 5 months. Pep couldn't have made a difference with the state of the club.

Of course he would, ffs! He’s world class, a million times the manager Coleman is.
 
Agree with 1.

If 2. Happened then yes, if he took us down I would, but warnock's CV suggests he would have kept us up. Nothing in Coleman's CV suggests that.
It’s so easy to defend managers who never even came to the club in the first place!
 
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