I hope Moyes stays


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If I were Short I wouldn't want him there on Saturday. The outcome of the season is now resolved - there is no escape. We've tried plan B i.e. keep the same manager for a season and it's failed.

The rest of the season now is about the fans hurling abuse at Moyes and the players which started in earnest last night, or it's about giving us some hope for next season and preparing for the transfer window.

Short is trying to sell the club and he hasn't a prayer while there is growing unrest.

So - time for change now.
I think the majority of the crowd will finally make their feelings known this weekend, a bit like what happened with Bruce at the Wigan game.
Once that happens there is no way the club can stick with Moyes.
I will say that Moyes has not had the best of luck this season BUT he has played the hand he was given terribly.
He also has the personallity of a wet fish and can anyone really say they could be motivated by this man in any walk of life never mind as a millionaire footballer who doesn't really give a toss in the first place?
We are already down so even if we don't win another point this season without Moyes we are no worse off.
I've renewed my season card as I support the club not any individual who either owns it or works for it but I can't bear to think how things will be next year if Moyes is still in charge.
 
Any examples of what he's done well this season?

You're in a tiny minority now for a reason

Nothing of note this season I can think of mate. Like the OP says changing managers again will be a backward step once again. Let's just give this guy a proper chance and you never know he might turn it around. Give him till Christmas and we'll see where we are. What we got to lose?
 
I felt the same way, I supported Moyes and knew it was always going to be a hard job but it has seriously made me thing about it. I want Short gone most of all because with him here nothing will change no matter which manager it is so he must go before we can move forward. I struggle to see who would want to come here anyway, I mean we haven't got a good record of keeping managers and anyone coming in will know fine well what comes next after a couple of months. I can see why they want to stick with a manager to bring long term stability and not keep rocking the boat but yes it's a difficult 1 with they way we are now because it's just a vicious circle, we'd be in the same situation in a few months with a new manager.
 
Nothing of note this season I can think of mate. Like the OP says changing managers again will be a backward step once again. Let's just give this guy a proper chance and you never know he might turn it around. Give him till Christmas and we'll see where we are. What we got to lose?

He's been a disaster mate. He also laid out approaching £40m (granted his net spend from last seasons squad is closer to £25m). I wouldn't want him near another transfer window with more limited funds available.

He's had a difficult hand, but he's played every card available badly. We can't risk the negativity currently hovering over the club to fester throughout the summer and into next season. He's simply got to go.
 
I'm still of the opinion he would do a good job long term and I was happy for him to continue but because of the current feeling towards him it's probably best he leaves anyway.

So even though the majority of the posters on here and myself have taken completely different paths to get there, we are ultimately at the same destination.
 
Nobody can offer a reasonable argument to keep Moyes because there isn't one.

How and why people are still coming out with the most tedious and ridiculous excuses for his complete ineptitude is frankly embarrassing.

He hasn't shown that he has single idea in his thick head that he can still effectively manage a football club. He's finished.

For fuck sake this useless arsehole has been nothing but a parasite and a leech on the club, taking £50K a week to get hammered off Burnley,, Swansea, Stoke at home and gifting a truely woeful Boro side 6 points. That's just some of the low lights of his 22 defeats from 33 games.

The horrible bastard deserves kicking in the nuts off every single one of our home crowd for the abject misery he's put us through this season before being booted up the arse all the way back to Scotland.

Fuck off Moyes, you've relegated us without a whimper of fight. You're a twat of a failure.
 
He's been a disaster mate. He also laid out approaching £40m (granted his net spend from last seasons squad is closer to £25m). I wouldn't want him near another transfer window with more limited funds available.

He's had a difficult hand, but he's played every card available badly. We can't risk the negativity currently hovering over the club to fester throughout the summer and into next season. He's simply got to go.

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In all seriousness, he's had a tough job here, but hit the first hurdle out of the gate and took down every one since.

If he had anything left as a manager, he'd have cleared a few hurdles.

He's completely finished.
 
Nothing of note this season I can think of mate. Like the OP says changing managers again will be a backward step once again. Let's just give this guy a proper chance and you never know he might turn it around. Give him till Christmas and we'll see where we are. What we got to lose?
How is Christmas a 'proper chance'?

If you want David Moyes to do the rebuild, give him 3 years. If you can't give him that time, hand on heart, then you might as well agree with everyone else and sack him.
 
Nothing of note this season I can think of mate. Like the OP says changing managers again will be a backward step once again.
Absolute bullshit. How can getting rid of the man mainly responsible for turning Sunderland into a laughing stock be a backward step?

Employing a new manager could be the first positive step forward the club has made in over a year.

Let's just give this guy a proper chance and you never know he might turn it around
He's had a full season and two transfer windows ffs.

Give him till Christmas and we'll see where we are. What we got to lose?
Any chance of promotion and possibly our championship status in a way we don't want rid of it.
 
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I struggle to see who would want to come here anyway, I mean we haven't got a good record of keeping managers and anyone coming in will know fine well what comes next after a couple of months

Surely any prospective managers will understand we have been ultra patient with moyes and realise any other club would have sacked him months ago.

We aren't a club that sacks managers on a whim or doesn't give them time.
 
Probably a bit of a lone voice here but I will be very disappointed if they sack Moyes at the end of the season. Bringing in someone else now will just promote all the uncertainty that a new manager brings - time to settle in time to assess what is needed , who is needed and who is not, time to find new targets etc etc.
Yes DM has not done a good job, but then it was never going to be easy for whoever came in. The clock is ticking for him, but now he has from now to organise everything so that we hit the ground running in the championship. I would think the time for him to get the bullet would be mid - December if we are not shaping up and at least in the top 10.


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Silly man.

I'm still of the opinion he would do a good job long term and I was happy for him to continue but because of the current feeling towards him it's probably best he leaves anyway.

So even though the majority of the posters on here and myself have taken completely different paths to get there, we are ultimately at the same destination.
What have you seen since being here that makes you think he would do a good job long term? Just interested why some still think he shouldn't get the bullet based on his ineptitude.
 
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I have to say that usually I am fairly supportive of the managers - I tend to be in the "he can turn it around" camp.

However, breaking point is when they start having a go at the fans, or just plain lying.

He seemed to be adamant that we played well last night and that we passed the ball well - so that's the end for me. Its not as if he was just putting a positive spin on it, he seemed to be genuinely believe that we played well enough.

New manager with a new outlook needed.

He's got a screw loose mate, I've thought so since last summer's transfer window. Some of his patter to the media in August should have seen him sectioned. Total and utter gibberish.
 
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