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We had a massive turnaround in the summer, building the club from top to bottom, but let’s just forget all that turmoil, and have a go at everyone and everything at the club. The owner had a 2 year plan if we fail to get promotion this year then things will change, in the meantime try supporting the team on the pitch
I always support the team on the pitch. Please tell me you aren't one of those weirdos who think giving criticism means you don't support your club.

The recruitment was dreadful last season and looks pretty poor this season. As I said previously you're very easily pleased.
 
How can you have a opinion on something you know nothing about, it’s like me having a go at someone who invests in stocks n shares when I haven’t got a clue about it

I am sure posters can have an opinion on a subject in which they follow week in week out, and a football club which is close to their hearts, its what this forum is for, unless you believe, posters shouldn't question the club or have a different opinion to others. ?
 
Pure speculation as is anybody else’s thoughts on what will happen on recruitment. But everyone is ignoring SD will still be running this club. So it will be what ever he proposes to new shareholders that will happen if they agree to fund it.
Do you honestly think if SD say you cant dispense with the services of Ross ,Hill and Coton they will say OK.
 
i might be wrong but i think all 3 of them were 'player of the year' for clubs slightly lower than us in the pyramid. also, more telling, is that these players were signed and not one of them has had a position in the starting 11 to drop straight into. Dobson doesn't start, O'Nien has barely played CM and Maguire has been in and out of the team in all manor of formations and positions. which illustrates the point even further.

absolutely zero clue on how to build a squad. its been the same since the days of Andre Celutska and cristian Riveros. the old scattergun approach. probably decent players if brought into the right system.

we seem to just throw onto the field whatever 11 players the manager at the time happens to draw out of hat and let them sort positions and tactics out themselves once the match starts


well the clear answer to that is that they didn't. and have probably never seen the lad play in the flesh. which raises the question, what the fuck have they been doing all summer?

Good post
That's when a good scout earns his corn. Steve Walsh at Leicester and now at Everton is an example. Norwich got promoted spending only £5m. There's too many people making excuses for the clubs short comings. Hill has been terrible at every job he has had and only got the gig because he's Donald's mate.

If Donald is happy with their performance over the last year then this takeover is pointless because we won't evolve as a club.

No really. He'll be an employee just like Levy is at Spurs and Buck at Chelsea. He'll have to answer to MSD and not the other way around.

And another good post

How anyone can defend our recruitment over the past decade is beyond me
 
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I believe these two are the root cause of the problems with the team. Poor recruitment never helps. Some will say "Ross accepted them" but if your given little in the way of options, you end up accepting second or third or next best, and try to live with it. Our recruitment, for the most part, has been hideous, and its plain that a lot of "first choices" went elsewhere, which can't be down to Ross.
 
I am sure posters can have an opinion on a subject in which they follow week in week out, and a football club which is close to their hearts, its what this forum is for, unless you believe, posters shouldn't question the club or have a different opinion to others. ?
Crack on they can have a opinion but slagging off people at the club when they haven’t got a clue about what the job criteria is just seems pointless.
I always support the team on the pitch. Please tell me you aren't one of those weirdos who think giving criticism means you don't support your club.

The recruitment was dreadful last season and looks pretty poor this season. As I said previously you're very easily pleased.
The recruitment. Wasn’t dreadful at all last season, if it was dreadful we wouldn’t have just missed out on promotion! And this season we are 3 points off the top, are you going to say it’s dreadful if we get promoted
 
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Crack on they can have a opinion but slagging off people at the club when they haven’t got a clue about what the job criteria is just seems pointless.

The recruitment. Wasn’t dreadful at all last season, if it was dreadful we wouldn’t have just missed out on promotion! And this season we are 3 points off the top, are you going to say it’s dreadful if we get promoted
Imagine actually believing this.

Have you ever criticised anything to do with the club?
 
Crack on they can have a opinion but slagging off people at the club when they haven’t got a clue about what the job criteria is just seems pointless.

The recruitment. Wasn’t dreadful at all last season, if it was dreadful we wouldn’t have just missed out on promotion! And this season we are 3 points off the top, are you going to say it’s dreadful if we get promoted
It was terrible. Especially in January.

Forgive me for not thinking 5th in league onewas decent.
 
Imagine actually believing this.

Have you ever criticised anything to do with the club?
Yeah sorry just missing out on promotion meant we recruited shit even after a massive overhaul of squad and club. 3 points off the top this season and it’s still barely begun ! Have you ever done anything but slag the club off? I will criticise the team if they have played shiloke the Peterborough game, I won’t slag off people who work at the club
Imagine actually believing this.

Have you ever criticised anything to do with the club?
have you ever done anything but slag club off in some way! I will criticise the team when they play shit like at Peterborough . I won’t slag off people who work at the club when I don’t have a clue what they are doing behind the scenes
 
Yeah sorry just missing out on promotion meant we recruited shit even after a massive overhaul of squad and club. 3 points off the top this season and it’s still barely begun ! Have you ever done anything but slag the club off? I will criticise the team if they have played shiloke the Peterborough game, I won’t slag off people who work at the club

have you ever done anything but slag club off in some way! I will criticise the team when they play shit like at Peterborough . I won’t slag off people who work at the club when I don’t have a clue what they are doing behind the scenes
You can clearly see what put recruitment has been like. It's absolutely bewildering anyone can thinks it's decent
 
It's a difficult one as we don't know who they recommended to the manager. It may be that their shortlist was good, possibly ambitious and we missed out on key targets due to wage restrictions and players opting to play in the championship. If some of the strong links are to be believed, we may have missed out on the following:

- Nelson signed for Cardiff, he opted to play for a championship club, only just relegated from the PL and they likely offered more wages tham we did. He would have been an improvement and I think most would have been happy with this signing.

- Taylor signed for Celtic, he wanted to play for the SPL champions and experience playing in Europe, again difficult to compete with.

- Shankland, he opted to stay in Scotland and is doing well, apparently he was offered decent wages, perhaps we couldn't compete.

- Koroma, he ended up joining Huddersfield, again tough to compete with as they're a newly relegated club from the PL.

- Jason Pearce decided to stay at Charlton.

There were of course others.

If we'd signed the above, we'd be laughing and likely commending Coton et al. The thing is, we didn't, so we can only form our opinion on those that signed and apart from McNulty and Willis, I think they're all underwhelming. We've lost Oviedo, Cattermole, Honeyman, Matthews and Maja within a year, we also lost Morgan (appreciate he was a loan) who was a half decent attacking player. I think it's safe to say we're weaker than we were last season, so I really can't work out how we're going to go up automatically. I think we're going to have to rely on the fact that the league as a whole is weaker than it was last season, but performances so far don't fill me with any confidence.

It's frustrating that we're not noticeably better than teams like Coventry, Blackpool, Ipswich etc. Yet again it appears it's going to be a long hard slog unless the takeover goes through and we spend in January. As it stands, I don't think we have the quality up front to get us enough goals.
 
Crack on they can have a opinion but slagging off people at the club when they haven’t got a clue about what the job criteria is just seems pointless.

The recruitment. Wasn’t dreadful at all last season, if it was dreadful we wouldn’t have just missed out on promotion! And this season we are 3 points off the top, are you going to say it’s dreadful if we get promoted

It was dreadful. Nobody has left us for more money, nobody has gone on to better things & January cost us promotion. Not to mention they’ve had to spend money paying Loovens off.
 
Crack on they can have a opinion but slagging off people at the club when they haven’t got a clue about what the job criteria is just seems pointless.

The recruitment. Wasn’t dreadful at all last season, if it was dreadful we wouldn’t have just missed out on promotion! And this season we are 3 points off the top, are you going to say it’s dreadful if we get promoted
Face the facts he failed last season and all his failings are clear as day this season.
 
Yeah sorry just missing out on promotion meant we recruited shit even after a massive overhaul of squad and club. 3 points off the top this season and it’s still barely begun ! Have you ever done anything but slag the club off? I will criticise the team if they have played shiloke the Peterborough game, I won’t slag off people who work at the club

have you ever done anything but slag club off in some way! I will criticise the team when they play shit like at Peterborough . I won’t slag off people who work at the club when I don’t have a clue what they are doing behind the scenes

Why, surely they deserve criticism if the club isn't going in the right direction or are they above criticism for you ?
 
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So here is a question. Ppl seem happy enough the new guys will keep on the owners and have them run the club. They made the appointments on the recruitment team which look terrible at present. Will they be under scrutiny themselves from the off?
 
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