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Re: Golden boy Jordan

In your opinion - I happen to think that a midfield player who refuses to tackle should, after 30 league games, contributed more than one goal and two assists.

I suppose he does play a huge number of sideward and backward passes though, so every cloud.....

and that is probably one of the reasons why you're (more than likely) sat at home, piss spattered pants on, gravy stained vest stretched to capacity, hungrily cramming a saturated fat cocktail of shit into your face while voicing your (pointless) opinion on a matter that you are far from qualified to judge, while the likes of steve bruce and fabio cappello are making a fortune from actually managing football teams
 
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Sometimes you just have to be thankful that this board only represents a small minority of our support.

I don't know really, yeah you do get the odd idiot, but I think most of us broadly agree that at this moment in time he is a very decent young player who is out of form, not playing very well and not playing in the position that probably suits his strengths and doesn't expose his weaknesses just now.

I think we all want to see him fulfill his undoubted potential though, just some people don't express it as such.
 
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So does Paul Scholes. Whats your point?

My point is that when the chips are down and there's a difficult, but potentially rewarding forward pass to play Henderson turns around and gives it to a centre-half.

Ican't believe you've had the gall to compare that numpty to Paul Scholes but seeing as you have, and for the record, Scholes contributes to his side with both goals and assists. Regularly.

and that is probably one of the reasons why you're (more than likely) sat at home, piss spattered pants on, gravy stained vest stretched to capacity, hungrily cramming a saturated fat cocktail of shit into your face while voicing your (pointless) opinion on a matter that you are far from qualified to judge, while the likes of steve bruce and fabio cappello are making a fortune from actually managing football teams

Fabio Cappello has since learned by his mistake. Steve Bruce has one point from his last six games.
 
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hes f***ing shit

no better than leadbitter and would be better in the championship

even whitehead was a better option than him in the middle

sell the useless twat. if he wasnt local he'd get loads more abuse
 
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I don't know really, yeah you do get the odd idiot, but I think most of us broadly agree that at this moment in time he is a very decent young player who is out of form, not playing very well and not playing in the position that probably suits his strengths and doesn't expose his weaknesses just now.

I think we all want to see him fulfill his undoubted potential though, just some people don't express it as such.

You won't last long on here mate with balanced, intelligent posts like that!
 
hes f***ing shit

no better than leadbitter and would be better in the championship

even whitehead was a better option than him in the middle

sell the useless twat. if he wasnt local he'd get loads more abuse

Agreed 100%

Henderson is a poor man's Dean Whitehead - loads of energy but doesn't actually give us anything.
 
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he does not tackle.

He needs to show he cares a bit more. Im not asking for Kevin Ball fist pumping and thunder tackles, Im asking for a bit of responsibility on the ball, to stand up and be counted, to drive the team on (the one he cares for more than some of us apparently). He is getting paid bloody good money for a "kid" playing for the team he "cares for".

Grow a pair of balls Jordan, drive the team on with the abililty we know you have and there will be no complaints. Take a risk, try a difficult ball that might not come off and shoulder the groans if it doesnt work. Start being a bloody man.

Hahahahahaha reeet mate her we go.

Lets prove your a fuck knuckle once and for all with pure logic and fact (something you're probably not well acquainted with but just go with it)

Henderson, who does not tackle, has actually attempted 49 tackles this season with a 75% success rate. Catts and steed have attempted slightly more but have only a 61% and 64% success rate.

Now where you really come apart though is the fact he has made 63 interceptions of the ball. More than any other member of the squad.

SO TO RE-ITERATE, Jordan henderson wins the ball back more often than any other player on the pitch

I await your reply with excitement.
 
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and that is probably one of the reasons why you're (more than likely) sat at home, piss spattered pants on, gravy stained vest stretched to capacity, hungrily cramming a saturated fat cocktail of shit into your face while voicing your (pointless) opinion on a matter that you are far from qualified to judge, while the likes of steve bruce and fabio cappello are making a fortune from actually managing football teams

How was your evening meal of char-grilled asparagus with extra-low-fat dip?

You f***ing wanker.
 
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Hahahahahaha reeet mate her we go.

Lets prove your a fuck knuckle once and for all with pure logic and fact (something you're probably not well acquainted with but just go with it)

Henderson, who does not tackle, has actually attempted 49 tackles this season with a 75% success rate. Catts and steed have attempted slightly more but have only a 61% and 64% success rate.

Now where you really come apart though is the fact he has made 63 interceptions of the ball. More than any other member of the squad.

SO TO RE-ITERATE, Jordan henderson wins the ball back more often than any other player on the pitch

I await your reply with excitement.

So your point to demonstrate that Henderson, a central midfield player, does tackle, is that he's only put slightly less tackles in this season than Cattermole, who'll be lucky if he's played half as many games, and Malbranque who has played a lot less games and is a wide midfield player?

Aye, thats us told.
 
Wouldn't gan that far like but he did make me think of Thirwell a few times this afternoon

he had potential aswell didn't he?

obviously i'm not claiming henderson will end up at carlisle or whereever, but he isn't doing the business at this current moment
 
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Hahahahahaha reeet mate her we go.

Lets prove your a fuck knuckle once and for all with pure logic and fact (something you're probably not well acquainted with but just go with it)

Henderson, who does not tackle, has actually attempted 49 tackles this season with a 75% success rate. Catts and steed have attempted slightly more but have only a 61% and 64% success rate.

Now where you really come apart though is the fact he has made 63 interceptions of the ball. More than any other member of the squad.

SO TO RE-ITERATE, Jordan henderson wins the ball back more often than any other player on the pitch

I await your reply with excitement.

thats 36 completed tackles in 3/4 a season where he has been a virtual ever present. Look mate, I rate Henderson. I have said it before. But he has a lot of weaknesses as a central midfielder. Probably more weaknesses than strengths. He does not deliver in the centre of the park. You can use stats as much as you like. There is a very famous saying on statistics and I suggest you look it up.

I want the lad to succeed, and as a result of that I want Sunderland to succeed. But I am afraid you are kidding yourself by hiding behind some pretty lame stats. I mean for Christs sake, comparing his tackling ratio to Cattermole (who has missed three months through injury and a few through suspension - from tackling by the way) and Steed Malbranque who has started a lot on the bench and played predominantly as a wide player or free role attacker is, in my opinion, a demonstration of a poor knowledge of the game. Im not going to resort to childish little quips like yours, but give your head a shake mate
 
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So your point to demonstrate that Henderson, a central midfield player, does tackle, is that he's only put slightly less tackles in this season than Cattermole, who'll be lucky if he's played half as many games, and Malbranque who has played a lot less games and is a wide midfield player?

Aye, thats us told.

Either way, more interceptions or not, he still needs to put more of a shift in consistently.
 
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I'm puzzled as too why you need to feel the need to have a pop at one of our better players today.

How do think Gyan played today?
How do you Bramble has played last 2 month?
How do think Cattermole played today?


For fuck sake please stop this ridiculous witch hunt of Jordan before he does fuck off and don't think he doesn't read these boards because he does.FACT.

Eh? Henderson was shite today. In fact, they all were. I thought Cattermole put himself about and Sessegnon looked good in parts but other than that they all looked poor.

Henderson, who does not tackle, has actually attempted 49 tackles this season with a 75% success rate. Catts and steed have attempted slightly more but have only a 61% and 64% success rate.

Only 49 tackles??? All season??? That sounds pathetic.

In fact, it is! The lad's very one dimensional. He can't shoot, well if he can...he rarely does! It took 47,000 fans to tell him what to do when he had acres of space to shoot today and then he blasted it wide.

He has no end product and he'd much prefer to go backwards than find a defence splitting pass. He's very frustrating to watch and I've majorly gone off him in the past couple of months.
 
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thats 36 completed tackles in 3/4 a season where he has been a virtual ever present. Look mate, I rate Henderson. I have said it before. But he has a lot of weaknesses as a central midfielder. Probably more weaknesses than strengths. He does not deliver in the centre of the park. You can use stats as much as you like. There is a very famous saying on statistics and I suggest you look it up.

I want the lad to succeed, and as a result of that I want Sunderland to succeed. But I am afraid you are kidding yourself by hiding behind some pretty lame stats. I mean for Christs sake, comparing his tackling ratio to Cattermole (who has missed three months through injury and a few through suspension - from tackling by the way) and Steed Malbranque who has started a lot on the bench and played predominantly as a wide player or free role attacker is, in my opinion, a demonstration of a poor knowledge of the game. Im not going to resort to childish little quips like yours, but give your head a shake mate

You need to give your head a shake coming on here publishing shit about bottling challenges.

Just have a look at the team statistics as a whole and make your own mind up. i think you are taking the opinion of far too many drunk part time supporters.

Henderson has a very solid all round game to him. I believe he is a lot more showy and creative on the RW. A position he may prove to be best on. But at this time the man with most football knowledge and experience wants to play him in CM where he can improve ALL aspects of his game.

I have a twenty year history of attending games as well as a background in sport and coaching. I can understand the subtleties of the game like a pass made which leads to a good passage of play 5 or 6 passes later. These unflashy things are what impress me the most.

I think a good example of this is Alonso at Liverpool. He was never fully appreciated for the subtly brilliant things he did when he was there. But once he was gone Liverpool fell apart.
 
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Hahahahahaha reeet mate her we go.

Lets prove your a fuck knuckle once and for all with pure logic and fact (something you're probably not well acquainted with but just go with it)

Henderson, who does not tackle, has actually attempted 49 tackles this season with a 75% success rate. Catts and steed have attempted slightly more but have only a 61% and 64% success rate.

Now where you really come apart though is the fact he has made 63 interceptions of the ball. More than any other member of the squad.

SO TO RE-ITERATE, Jordan henderson wins the ball back more often than any other player on the pitch

I await your reply with excitement.

Here is another reply - kind of backs up my "more weaknesses than strengths" argument (seeing as though stats can be used in any way that one wants to use them)

Jordan Henderson is NOT in the top 50 players list for:

tackles
goals
assists
fouls won
fouls conceded
shots on target
total shots

However, Jordan Henderson is in the top 50 for:

key passes
total passes
successful passes

He has also been an ever present. This stat could be used to argue that thats why he appears in the top 50 of most passes, key passes and successful passes. However, it can also be used to condemn the fact that he hasnt had more shots, made more tackles, scored more goals and contributed with more assists.

(Source, Daily Telegraph online - Premier League Statistics)
 
Eh? Henderson was shite today. In fact, they all were. I thought Cattermole put himself about and Sessegnon looked good in parts but other than that they all looked poor.



Only 49 tackles??? All season??? That sounds pathetic.

In fact, it is! The lad's very one dimensional. He can't shoot, well if he can...he rarely does! It took 47,000 fans to tell him what to do when he had acres of space to shoot today and then he blasted it wide.

He has no end product and he'd much prefer to go backwards than find a defence splitting pass. He's very frustrating to watch and I've majorly gone off him in the past couple of months.

Its not really mate if you actually had a thought in your f***ing head

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