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By getting called up to England, expectations were raised for him, and he clearly cannot handle those expectations.

He's a bairn man, do you really expect him to carry the side at his age? Look how long it took a character like Bally to rise to the challenge.
 
I am amazed at the attitude of so many people on here.

We have a great, local, young talent in our team, who has played almost every minute of every match this season. He has been praised by countless other players and managers and won his first England cap, all within a season or 2 of making his debut. He is far from the finished article but has been our stand out player for large parts of this season, in a constantly changing team and role and often finding himself forced to act as the leader and catalyst on the pitch, whilst still in his teens/early 20s.

He has a poor run of form, which I am sure he is aware of and is working his bollox off in training to improve, and whereas I would have hoped the general attitude would have been supportive, understanding and positive instead people are quick to judge him as being shit, overrated and should be shipped out ASAP before the secret gets out and we have to flog him to Darlington for a fiver in a season or two.

I'm not a mug, I know he isn't Messi, but let's give the guy a chance eh?

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and im sure that when he fucks up and he hears everyone moan and sigh that it hurts him more than it would anyone else because hes one of us. he wants to do well and he wants to do it with us, god knows why when people just slate him.

lampard and gerrard werent exactly fantastic when they were 20, not saying he will hit their standard but just saying i bet they were shite for a while.

i hope we do take the money and he does fuck off, then reach his potential and become a very good premiership player and proves everyone wrong.

look at the shite weve had over the years, whitley, whitehead, miller, robinson, hes lightyears ahead of them. people just have short memories. i dont know what people expect of the lad.

sometimes i think because a local lad whos become a sunderland regular and is living the dream we could only ever imagine people get jealous and want any chance they can to slate him
 
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and im sure that when he fucks up and he hears everyone moan and sigh that it hurts him more than it would anyone else because hes one of us. he wants to do well and he wants to do it with us, god knows why when people just slate him.

lampard and gerrard werent exactly fantastic when they were 20, not saying he will hit their standard but just saying i bet they were shite for a while.

i hope we do take the money and he does fuck off, then reach his potential and become a very good premiership player and proves everyone wrong.

look at the shite weve had over the years, whitley, whitehead, miller, robinson, hes lightyears ahead of them. people just have short memories. i dont know what people expect of the lad.

sometimes i think because a local lad whos become a sunderland regular and is living the dream we could only ever imagine people get jealous and want any chance they can to slate him

Almost every match, first time he misplaces a pass or over hits a cross there is a growing number of people sitting round us who openly and loudly slate him. You hear the murmur go round the ground. Imagine what that feels like, especially when it seems to be him that gets it more than others.

I will say though that he is not helped by whoever decides that he should still take every corner and free kick. For every 1 decent one there is 5 that sail over the box. Surely there is someone who can take a bit of pressure of the lad and take over for a while!
 
Almost every match, first time he misplaces a pass or over hits a cross there is a growing number of people sitting round us who openly and loudly slate him. You hear the murmur go round the ground. Imagine what that feels like, especially when it seems to be him that gets it more than others.

I will say though that he is not helped by whoever decides that he should still take every corner and free kick. For every 1 decent one there is 5 that sail over the box. Surely there is someone who can take a bit of pressure of the lad and take over for a while!

If Zenden actually played once a while he should take set pieces as he can actually hit them over the first man
 
he needs a good game basically, we all know hes talented but theres no doubting hes been a passenger lately, possibly due to team selection formation and etc.
agree someone else should be taking the set pieces though as frankly that has been shite
 
Must be feeling the pressure from our own fans.....soon as he got away from them for a while with England recently he looked back to his old self again and scored a goal to top off his fine performance.
 
Almost every match, first time he misplaces a pass or over hits a cross there is a growing number of people sitting round us who openly and loudly slate him. You hear the murmur go round the ground. Imagine what that feels like, especially when it seems to be him that gets it more than others.

I will say though that he is not helped by whoever decides that he should still take every corner and free kick. For every 1 decent one there is 5 that sail over the box. Surely there is someone who can take a bit of pressure of the lad and take over for a while!

It's bizarre. Week in week out, Henderson has our highest pass completion rate. Rarely misplacing a pass, yet when he does the entire stadium seems to groan. Anyone else misplaces a pass and the crowd reaction around ground is nowhere near as bad as it for Henderson. Bardsley struggles to find a red and white shirt and is being touted as a possible player of season.
 
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and im sure that when he fucks up and he hears everyone moan and sigh that it hurts him more than it would anyone else because hes one of us. he wants to do well and he wants to do it with us, god knows why when people just slate him.

lampard and gerrard werent exactly fantastic when they were 20, not saying he will hit their standard but just saying i bet they were shite for a while.

i hope we do take the money and he does fuck off, then reach his potential and become a very good premiership player and proves everyone wrong.

look at the shite weve had over the years, whitley, whitehead, miller, robinson, hes lightyears ahead of them. people just have short memories. i dont know what people expect of the lad.

sometimes i think because a local lad whos become a sunderland regular and is living the dream we could only ever imagine people get jealous and want any chance they can to slate him

This sort of comparison to defend players who are being criticised is ridiculous. So as long as the current player is better than shit ex player that is alright? It's nonsense. We could of course turn it round and say he is not as good as Schwartz, Hutchison, Clark etc.

It is pretty clear that most people think he should be dropped (sorry rested) but what worries me is that Steve Bruce can't or wont see it. He couldn't see that Cana was dog shit last season and it took Cana's suspension for Meyler to come in (along with Campbell) and transform the team to finish the season well.
 
I feel a bit sorry for Henderson.

Along with Meyler, Campbell, Turner, etc, he is just one more player who Bruce has managed terribly. Anyone can see that he has needed a rest, and that he has gone backwards since his England debut, but he has played more games than anyone else.

But not least because Bruce has hollowed out the squad until there is nothing there, behind the first XI, he has kept picking him as he gets worse and worse and becomes a scapegoat for the crowd as a local lad at the age of 20, when he should (and has the potential to be) a hero.

To be honest the best thing for him to do may be to leave in the summer for a fresh start.
 
This sort of comparison to defend players who are being criticised is ridiculous. So as long as the current player is better than shit ex player that is alright? It's nonsense. We could of course turn it round and say he is not as good as Schwartz, Hutchison, Clark etc.

It is pretty clear that most people think he should be dropped (sorry rested) but what worries me is that Steve Bruce can't or wont see it. He couldn't see that Cana was dog shit last season and it took Cana's suspension for Meyler to come in (along with Campbell) and transform the team to finish the season well.

durty blak n white bastard not fit to wipe Jordan's botty in my opionon
 
so what was the excuse at the start of the season

You mean the 1st part of the season where stats showed he created more goal scoring chances for his team mates than any other player in the Premier League?

You mean the 1st part of the season where he barely gave the ball away (see above as to why the backwards passing bullshit is just that)

I feel a bit sorry for Henderson.

Along with Meyler, Campbell, Turner, etc, he is just one more player who Bruce has managed terribly. Anyone can see that he has needed a rest, and that he has gone backwards since his England debut, but he has played more games than anyone else.

But not least because Bruce has hollowed out the squad until there is nothing there, behind the first XI, he has kept picking him as he gets worse and worse and becomes a scapegoat for the crowd as a local lad at the age of 20, when he should (and has the potential to be) a hero.

To be honest the best thing for him to do may be to leave in the summer for a fresh start.

Bollocks - who has Bruce got rid of from the Midfield that could have stepped in?

Whitehead? Well thats debateable for a start but he had to be sold to raise funds for Cattermole signing

Leadbitter? Dont be daft

And Cana left us of his own volition.
 
I feel a bit sorry for Henderson.

Along with Meyler, Campbell, Turner, etc, he is just one more player who Bruce has managed terribly. Anyone can see that he has needed a rest, and that he has gone backwards since his England debut, but he has played more games than anyone else.

But not least because Bruce has hollowed out the squad until there is nothing there, behind the first XI, he has kept picking him as he gets worse and worse and becomes a scapegoat for the crowd as a local lad at the age of 20, when he should (and has the potential to be) a hero.

To be honest the best thing for him to do may be to leave in the summer for a fresh start.

I agree with this, he doesn't stand a chance with some of our fans.
 
You mean the 1st part of the season where stats showed he created more goal scoring chances for his team mates than any other player in the Premier League?

You mean the 1st part of the season where he barely gave the ball away (see above as to why the backwards passing bullshit is just that)



Bollocks - who has Bruce got rid of from the Midfield that could have stepped in?

Whitehead? Well thats debateable for a start but he had to be sold to raise funds for Cattermole signing

Leadbitter? Dont be daft

And Cana left us of his own volition.

This has been his job in a nutshell while we have been light in numbers in the midfield, he's been told to just keep it moving, get in a bit space, receive the ball and fond another sunderland shirt. if people cant see that they are watching the wrong sport.
 
Jesus Christ, no wonder we dont produce many young players here when they get this level of patience shown.

Indeed, very few seem to see Henderson's potential. Rather, they just seem to expect him to perform week in week out to the high standards he himself set, a run of poor form (which truth be told he, he really hasn't been any worse than any other player in the team.) and it's "he's shit" , "flog him". Amazes me the lack of support local lads seem to get from our supporters.
 
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